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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | A big name to have on a ballot. I don't know how she performed in the House of Commons before but she's got the experience but would still be a bit of a fresh face. |
Right now I think that style is more important then substance;
The Liberals need a rockstar, and she certainly qualifies.
However I cannot imagine the NDP would roll over and run some shlub if that was the case, and if Stronach lost it would be pretty damning.
However the NDP seem to have little interest from anyone I have ever heard of for the nomination. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | A big name to have on a ballot. I don't know how she performed in the House of Commons before but she's got the experience but would still be a bit of a fresh face. |
Right now I think that style is more important then substance;
The Liberals need a rockstar, and she certainly qualifies.
However I cannot imagine the NDP would roll over and run some shlub if that was the case, and if Stronach lost it would be pretty damning.
However the NDP seem to have little interest from anyone I have ever heard of for the nomination. |
The NDP select their candidate on January 9, I believe. The Liberals are supposedly expecting to have upwards of 5 candidate vying for the nomination. Wonder what the Conservatives will do? |
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Progressive Tory"
The NDP select their candidate on January 9, I believe. The Liberals are supposedly expecting to have upwards of 5 candidate vying for the nomination. Wonder what the Conservatives will do?[/quote]
Nominate a 3rd year PSCI student and watch the Liberals and the NDP rip each-other apart.
What I find strange is the length of time Harper is taking in setting this by-election, he is really cutting it close to the last possible moment to schedule it, and within the context of a safe majority I don't see why?
Maybe there is some truth in Mount Royal coming available soon? |
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think Mount Royal will become available, especially after everything that has happened. Denis Coderre will likely be the first Quebec MP to call it quits. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | I don't think Mount Royal will become available, especially after everything that has happened. Denis Coderre will likely be the first Quebec MP to call it quits. |
Irwin Cotler will be 72 in May, and was always clear that this whole politics thing was a break from teaching and nothing more, I hate to be ageist but he is running out of time if we wants any retirement years.
I think the Tories (especially the ground force in Quebec which has been pretty effective in by-elections) are too smart to do something like sniff around Mount Royal if there wasn't some smoke around.
Perhaps they caught wind of a job offer and ran with it?
However that is just me purely speculating.
Coderre? Really?
I assumed he would be Quebec's chosen son in the Liberal Leadership race next year. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I just think that after making such a big issue out of the whole thing Cotler won't leave.
I've read that Coderre is eyeing the Montreal mayoral job. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Rob Silver says that he is certain the next Liberal leader will come from outside caucus, which I think is quite interesting seeing he likely knows something most do not.[/code] |
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I follow Marc Garneau on twitter and it seems as though he's been letting his positions on issues known since announcing he may seek the leadership.
He has mentioned how he wants to see the party reformed blah blah blah and that he'd like to have primaries, but besides all that party stuff he states this morning that "My position on lowing corporate taxes: you do it smartly. This year, not necessary nor increase in EI payroll tax"
He also mentioned the other day how he reads blogging tories! |
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:48 am Post subject: |
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LIBERAL POLICIES: BIGGER GOVERNMENT, MORE SPENDING, HIGHER TAXES, & SOFT ON TERRORISM
The Liberal Party’s 2011 platform, that was so left-wing that the middle of the road is in a different time zone, substituted Adam Smith’s philosophy for a statist agenda that doesn’t promise equal opportunity for all, but rather equal results for all bestowed by a radically progressive nanny state through programs of fiscal and social engineering.
The ideology the Liberal Party is based on simulated social equality, economic nationalism, centralism, and higher taxation, while ignoring the deficit/debt; unlimited social engineering by a progressive state. This tax and spend schema steals from our grandchildren while insisting that current Canadian can live in a utopia!
They have promulgated distinct policy differences that plunge the Liberal Party far to the left. The Liberal party’s flagship issues include more government intrusion by means of a larger more expensive government, more spending, and more job slaughtering higher corporate taxes. Canadians don’t want this combined with the Liberal Party’s terror denial, coddling of terrorists, supporting the slaughter of even more unborn persons, plus increased immigration levels and wealth redistribution.
Examples of these Cro-Magnon Liberals move to the radical left, is its plans to implement a series of new extremely expensive, deficits expanding entitlement programs: a $5-6-7(?) billion universal Child Care Program that will hire uncaring, overpaid bureaucrats to bring up our children, a billion dollar annually Family Care Program, a billion dollars annually for students, plus a billion dollar annual elderly entitlement program. Ignatieff’s avocation that laid-off workers receive unemployment benefits after only 45 days of work a year of employment would increase unemployment, decrease productivity, and increase premiums of those employed. At other times he has indicated that his party would increase the GST tax by 2 points, and increase by 2% the job slaughtering and price increasing corporate tax. At time they have talked about inflicting either a carbon tax or a Cap, Tax & Trade “Ponzi style” system on us which would increase taxes, increase the cost of everything we buy, and would slaughter millions of jobs as it transferred wealth from wealth producing provinces to other provinces/countries.
With regards to foreign affairs the far-left Liberals constantly whine about the alleged maltreatment of their darling Taliban terrorists while spurning our Canadian troops in Afghanistan. They constantly criticize Israeli while demanding rights for terrorists Palestinians, and/or fanatical war criminal terrorists such as Khadr. The left plunging Liberals are also considering a policy of trying foreign aid to abortion rights; the more unborn persons you slaughter, the more money you get!
Thoughtful Canadians must assume that voters will resist a European style big government, nanny statist Liberal Party who would forsake laissez faire capitalistic principles, while legislating as Karl Marx would decree. |
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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To be fair it's hard to criticize the Liberals on policy because they don't stand for anything, and depending on who their next leader is their election platform could be radically different. The Dion Liberals were for reducing corporate taxes to 15%, while the Ignatieff Liberals wanted to increase them to 17.5%. Former policies like a national child care plan are being voted on at their convention next week.
As well it's not like you can trust a Liberal platform because they have tended to govern differently then what they campaigned on. Most governments are like that though. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | Rob Silver says that he is certain the next Liberal leader will come from outside caucus, which I think is quite interesting seeing he likely knows something most do not. |
He may;
However I think it may be largely commonsense at this point.
The Liberals are setting themselves up for a year and a half of hardcore "getting to know you" time with Canadians and their new leader before election day.
That hasn't worked yet.
They need a superstar to come out of the woodwork, or they basically cede the election. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | Rob Silver says that he is certain the next Liberal leader will come from outside caucus, which I think is quite interesting seeing he likely knows something most do not. |
He may;
However I think it may be largely commonsense at this point.
The Liberals are setting themselves up for a year and a half of hardcore "getting to know you" time with Canadians and their new leader before election day.
That hasn't worked yet.
They need a superstar to come out of the woodwork, or they basically cede the election. |
Lise St Denis for leader! |
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | Rob Silver says that he is certain the next Liberal leader will come from outside caucus, which I think is quite interesting seeing he likely knows something most do not. |
He may;
However I think it may be largely commonsense at this point.
The Liberals are setting themselves up for a year and a half of hardcore "getting to know you" time with Canadians and their new leader before election day.
That hasn't worked yet.
They need a superstar to come out of the woodwork, or they basically cede the election. |
Lise St Denis for leader! |
LOL;
And I thought Bob Rae was too old! |
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: |
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So George Smitherman won't be running in Toronto Danforth, he declined, but he's in charge of finding a candidate for the by-election and according to him they are delighted with the NDPs candidate. Supposedly it has been their plan all along to wait for the NDP to name their candidate.
I guess Smitherman also won't look at running for the federal Liberal leadership either.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2.....yelection/ |
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | So George Smitherman won't be running in Toronto Danforth, he declined, but he's in charge of finding a candidate for the by-election and according to him they are delighted with the NDPs candidate. Supposedly it has been their plan all along to wait for the NDP to name their candidate.
I guess Smitherman also won't look at running for the federal Liberal leadership either.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2.....yelection/ |
Is Smitherman has been tasked with finding a candidate I would imagine he would pillage the Provincial Party, and his comments about not parachuting a candidate are interesting.
Sarah Thomson perhaps?
She gave Rosario Marchese a solid solid run in Trinity—Spadina in October.
Maybe Stephen LeDrew?
He is about as Toronto as it comes.
Or they could attempt to blow the dust off Ben Chin?
He ran for the Provincial Liberals in that riding's By-Election and while he lost gave the Provincial Liberals their best finishes in terms of percentage of vote in the riding's history?
As long as its not Dennis Mills or Andrew Lang then it shows me the Liberals are taking the by-election seriously.
However the vigor they go after this riding will give us an idea as to the braintrusts opinion of a future merger.
If they steal an NDP MP, and then win Jack's riding with a rockstar its safe to say the gloves are off, if they punt then its a different story. |
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