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 Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| One person I've been wondering about is Sandra Pupatello. Her exit from the provincial scene seemed to have caught many off guard, she was in Newfoundland and Labrador campaigning with her husband during the election but I don't know what she has planned going forward. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Pupatello would be an interesting candidate for the Federal Liberals.
Her former Provincial riding is currently NDP federally, and was Herb Gray's riding from 1962 - 2002.
Windsor, Sarnia, and London were very strongly Liberal ridings which have now been carved up among the Conservatives and New Democrats, the Liberals have been finishing third by miles in ridings they used to dominate.
The Liberals currently lack a single federal seat in Southwestern Ontario.
Much like Northern Ontario, its a region they need the help in. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: | Pupatello would be an interesting candidate for the Federal Liberals.
Her former Provincial riding is currently NDP federally, and was Herb Gray's riding from 1962 - 2002.
Windsor, Sarnia, and London were very strongly Liberal ridings which have now been carved up among the Conservatives and New Democrats, the Liberals have been finishing third by miles in ridings they used to dominate.
The Liberals currently lack a single federal seat in Southwestern Ontario.
Much like Northern Ontario, its a region they need the help in. |
They need help everywhere.
I guess she speaks French. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | cosmostein wrote: | Pupatello would be an interesting candidate for the Federal Liberals.
Her former Provincial riding is currently NDP federally, and was Herb Gray's riding from 1962 - 2002.
Windsor, Sarnia, and London were very strongly Liberal ridings which have now been carved up among the Conservatives and New Democrats, the Liberals have been finishing third by miles in ridings they used to dominate.
The Liberals currently lack a single federal seat in Southwestern Ontario.
Much like Northern Ontario, its a region they need the help in. |
They need help everywhere.
I guess she speaks French. |
The Liberals issue currently is two pronged;
They need a leader to rally the troops, but they need some quality troops.
Pupatello is a quality candidate for them in an area they have simply become a non-factor in.
A leader can only be in so many places at once; sooner or later you need to rely on the candidates to get themselves elected. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:48 am Post subject: |
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According to Lawrence Martin the person who will succeed Bob Rae as leader is... Mark Carney. He just won't do it till some time after 2015.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....le2235985/
Last edited by Progressive Tory on Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:19 am; edited 1 time in total |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Now that would be interesting;
Mark Carney is 46, he is a known commodity, and he is on the soft fiscal right.
The fact that I would imagine he would run in Western Arctic also gives the Liberals a nice foothold in an area the Tories have made huge gains in while popping off an NDP incumbent.
If the Liberals punt in 2015, Carney is made leader around his 50th birthday, he has four years to prep for and can certainly get the party revamped by then.
While I think its a brilliant idea;
I am not sure why he would opt to run for the Liberals. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: |
Now that would be interesting;
Mark Carney is 46, he is a known commodity, and he is on the soft fiscal right.
The fact that I would imagine he would run in Western Arctic also gives the Liberals a nice foothold in an area the Tories have made huge gains in while popping off an NDP incumbent.
If the Liberals punt in 2015, Carney is made leader around his 50th birthday, he has four years to prep for and can certainly get the party revamped by then.
While I think its a brilliant idea;
I am not sure why he would opt to run for the Liberals. |
I think Carney could potentially be unbeatable if he ran for either party. I guess his politics is unknown and economic policies are a hard indicator of identifying what party someone may support. There are Liberals who have more right-wing economic policies then Conservatives, it may all come down to social issues. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | cosmostein wrote: |
Now that would be interesting;
Mark Carney is 46, he is a known commodity, and he is on the soft fiscal right.
The fact that I would imagine he would run in Western Arctic also gives the Liberals a nice foothold in an area the Tories have made huge gains in while popping off an NDP incumbent.
If the Liberals punt in 2015, Carney is made leader around his 50th birthday, he has four years to prep for and can certainly get the party revamped by then.
While I think its a brilliant idea;
I am not sure why he would opt to run for the Liberals. |
I think Carney could potentially be unbeatable if he ran for either party. I guess his politics is unknown and economic policies are a hard indicator of identifying what party someone may support. There are Liberals who have more right-wing economic policies then Conservatives, it may all come down to social issues. |
I tend to agree;
However guessing his social agenda aside;
I think Carney is only a viable option of the Liberal remain the Liberals; I don't see him leading a party with some of the current NDP caucus within it.
Economically they are far to ideologically different. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | cosmostein wrote: |
Now that would be interesting;
Mark Carney is 46, he is a known commodity, and he is on the soft fiscal right.
The fact that I would imagine he would run in Western Arctic also gives the Liberals a nice foothold in an area the Tories have made huge gains in while popping off an NDP incumbent.
If the Liberals punt in 2015, Carney is made leader around his 50th birthday, he has four years to prep for and can certainly get the party revamped by then.
While I think its a brilliant idea;
I am not sure why he would opt to run for the Liberals. |
I think Carney could potentially be unbeatable if he ran for either party. I guess his politics is unknown and economic policies are a hard indicator of identifying what party someone may support. There are Liberals who have more right-wing economic policies then Conservatives, it may all come down to social issues. |
I tend to agree;
However guessing his social agenda aside;
I think Carney is only a viable option of the Liberal remain the Liberals; I don't see him leading a party with some of the current NDP caucus within it.
Economically they are far to ideologically different. |
The leader will dictate many of their positions though. Someone like Carney would likely not have a problem attracting people to run for the Liberals under his leadership so he has the potential of really building his own party. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: |
The leader will dictate many of their positions though. Someone like Carney would likely not have a problem attracting people to run for the Liberals under his leadership so he has the potential of really building his own party. |
I hope that is the case;
However watching Paul Martin campaign on national daycare, and Micheal Ignatieff take a huge step back from what he was discussing during his leadership bid in 2006 makes me wonder just how much autonomy the leader of the LPC has. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Dalton McGuinty is out of the race, which means the door is open for David McGuinty. I've looked at David's background before but I've never really looked at Dalton's, David's is pretty impressive so he might be more qualified that Dalton and has less baggage.Though he'll probably be attacked for his last name. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | Dalton McGuinty is out of the race, which means the door is open for David McGuinty. I've looked at David's background before but I've never really looked at Dalton's, David's is pretty impressive so he might be more qualified that Dalton and has less baggage.Though he'll probably be attacked for his last name. |
When did he pull out?
David running gets all the static of his Brothers government without the teflon coating that Dalton enjoys. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | Dalton McGuinty is out of the race, which means the door is open for David McGuinty. I've looked at David's background before but I've never really looked at Dalton's, David's is pretty impressive so he might be more qualified that Dalton and has less baggage.Though he'll probably be attacked for his last name. |
When did he pull out?
David running gets all the static of his Brothers government without the teflon coating that Dalton enjoys. |
A few days ago.
http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/a.....OttawaHome |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | Dalton McGuinty is out of the race, which means the door is open for David McGuinty. I've looked at David's background before but I've never really looked at Dalton's, David's is pretty impressive so he might be more qualified that Dalton and has less baggage.Though he'll probably be attacked for his last name. |
When did he pull out?
David running gets all the static of his Brothers government without the teflon coating that Dalton enjoys. |
A few days ago.
http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/a.....OttawaHome |
That is too bad;
The tank is now officially dry. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | Dalton McGuinty is out of the race, which means the door is open for David McGuinty. I've looked at David's background before but I've never really looked at Dalton's, David's is pretty impressive so he might be more qualified that Dalton and has less baggage.Though he'll probably be attacked for his last name. |
When did he pull out?
David running gets all the static of his Brothers government without the teflon coating that Dalton enjoys. |
A few days ago.
http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/a.....OttawaHome |
That is too bad;
The tank is now officially dry. |
The PCs would probably be worse off in Ontario if McGuinty went federal, a new Liberal leader could probably form a majority provincially. |
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