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Which will it be?
Isreal will be at war and surrounded by enemies within the year.
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The brotherhood may hold temporary sway, but not for long.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Which way is it going to tip? Reply with quote

http://www.theatlantic.com/int.....gypt/70636

A sea of Islamic theocracy, with renewed pan-Arabic aggression against the state of Isreal, or are things actually going to improve?
Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are aware that Jeffrey Goldberg is of the left, one of the Jews that Mark Levin is not proud of, they do not support Israel. And sure enough he has to talk about necons in his bullshit piece which I had difficulty understanding. Where did he get these facts? A few academics? A poll?

"Well, this is interesting. The neoconservative (or liberal interventionist) wing of American Jewish political thought (not that all neocons are Jewish, God forbid anyone should think that!) is cheering on the revolution in Egypt, while the Israeli government, and much of Israel's pundit class, is seeing the apocalypse in Mubarak's apparent downfall."


"But the neoconservatives, who have made democracy promotion in the Middle East an overarching goal, are scratching their heads at what they see as Israeli shortsightedness."

"It's worth remembering that, despite the various Walt and Mearsheimer-style conspiracy theories about Israeli influence on American politics, the Israelis themselves were noticeably unenthusiastic about another neoconservative notion, the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. In other words, the gap between Israel and the neocons that has widened over Egypt is not, in fact, new."

What's he trying to say? The Jews love Obama who knows what's what? Or Bush made a mistake with Iraq? Or it's the neocons who pushed democracy, but it doesn't work? Now the necons have split views? Goldberg is typical of the leftist writer who gets awards from like kinds.

Anybody who has studied the Middle East will be aware that democracy does not come easy, and does not occur in a short period. Sometimes countries have to be forced such as Germany and Japan to accept a form of democracy, and then observed how they have adapted.

Is Goldberg saying that Israel is refusing the possiblities of a demcocracy in Egypt and elsewhere that the Republicans, George Bush's administration have suggested and attempted? Is this leftist trying to create a schism with Conservatives and Israelis. Is there a Jewish member of Blogging Tories forum who might clarify Goldberg's pov?

There are a couple of links and a radio interview that might clarify Israel's concern on my weblog comment.

One Person. One Vote. One Time... Then what? Thank goodness for democratic Israel
http://onwardjames.blogspot.co.....-what.html
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