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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Tories eye Fantino to break Liberal hold on Vaughan Reply with quote

Tories eye Fantino to break Liberal hold on Toronto

John Ivison September 2, 2010 – 3:15 pm


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Julian Fantino
Julian Fantino, who has just stepped down from the job of Commissioner of the Ontario Provincial Police, is said to be on the verge of announcing he will run for the federal Conservatives in the Greater Toronto riding of Vaughan, according to informed sources.

The seat has just been vacated by Maurizio Bevilacqua, who is taking a run at the mayor’s job in Vaughan. A by-election – one of four set for this fall – will likely be called for some time in November. The Liberals have yet to hold a nomination meeting to replace Mr. Bevilacqua, who was first elected in 1988.

He won the riding by 12,000 votes at the 2008 general election but his percentage of the vote fell by 10% from 2006, with much of the loss going to the Conservatives. With a high profile, Italian-born candidate like Mr. Fantino, who was Toronto Chief of Police earlier this decade, the Tories feel they could clean up in the riding.

Mr. Fantino has been a colourful and controversial figure throughout his long police career. In the 1990s, he was accused of homophobia when dozens of gay men were arrested in London, Ontario, as part of an investigation into a purported child porn ring. He tried to defuse this image by appearing on the cover of a gay magazine in uniform, surrounded by models dressed as the Village People. He has in the past criticized the effectiveness of the gun registry, which would make him a useful Conservative counter-weight to those police chiefs who have come out in favour of the registry.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thestar.com/news/ca.....itics?bn=1

Maybe not?

"Fantino, who recently retired as commissioner of the Ontario Provincial Police, told the Star Thursday that he’s not ready to trade a uniform for a politicians’ suit.

“At this point, I am more interested in decompressing from 42 years of very busy public service, and that’s where it’s at. I have only been gone a month and I am still getting acclimatized to this (retired) life,” Fantino said in an interview."

It might be worth noting that in an article about Bevilacqua's run for mayor in the Sun that it described Fantino as being "on-board".
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the Tories had a good chance before Fantino;
Now I think if Fantino does run I can call that a fairly safe CPC pick-up.

Once again we find ourselves walking into a by-election with a very interesting yet familiar situation brewing,

Winnipeg North (NDP)
Dauphin—Swan River—Marquette (CPC)
Vaughan (LPC)

The Liberals may walk out once again without a single seat,
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i don't know if fantino will run or not but it be great if he did . its funny 2 newspaper articles from the same day say 2 totally different things as to his intentions .

it should also be noted there is now speculation of a 4th by-election in the quebec riding of Haute Gaspe Matane Matapedia , where bloc mp Jean Yves Roy previous anounced his retirement and has done little as mp since due to health issues and is apparently being urged to quit by Gilles Duceppe . so there may be a 4th by-election .
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RCO wrote:
well i don't know if fantino will run or not but it be great if he did . its funny 2 newspaper articles from the same day say 2 totally different things as to his intentions .

it should also be noted there is now speculation of a 4th by-election in the quebec riding of Haute Gaspe Matane Matapedia , where bloc mp Jean Yves Roy previous anounced his retirement and has done little as mp since due to health issues and is apparently being urged to quit by Gilles Duceppe . so there may be a 4th by-election .


Jean-Yves Roy has been a loyal soldier for the BQ for the last decade; if he were to step aside (as he was a popular former mayor) and the Liberals ran a very popular Nancy Charest again I think that riding may flip Liberal.

Should be interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( there is alot of buzz about this and its unclear what he will do at this time but it looks like the vaughan seat is officially vacant and a by-election is likely in november once the municipal election is over i would suspect )

Hot: Julian Fantino. The recently retired Ontario Provincial Police commissioner is creating buzz after reports the federal Conservatives are courting him to run as their star candidate in Vaughan.

Long-time Liberal MP Maurizio Bevilacqua – a 22-year veteran in the Commons – resigned his seat Thursday. He is set to run for mayor of the Toronto-area suburb, leaving a vacancy in the House of Commons.

Mr. Fantino would be a catch for the Tories, especially as they push their law-and-order agenda. As well, Vaughan is surrounded by other Conservative-held constituencies, including junior cabinet minister Peter Kent in Thornhill and Lois Brown in Newmarket-Aurora.

The former police officer is playing down speculation about his interest in federal politics, however. “At this point, I am more interested in decompressing from 42 years of very busy public service, and that’s where it’s at. I have only been gone a month and I am still getting acclimatized to this [retired] life,” Mr. Fantino told Toronto Star.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....le1695142/
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( now according to star fantino is going to run after all )

Julian Fantino to run for Tories in Vaughan
Published On Wed Oct 6 2010

Richard J. Brennan
Ottawa Bureau

OTTAWA—Julian Fantino, for years Ontario’s best known and highest-ranking cop, will be the Conservative candidate in the Vaughan federal by-election when it’s called by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the Toronto Star has learned.

A senior government source said “he’s going for it, no doubt” — even as the Prime Minister’s office tried to douse expectations that the former Ontario Provincial Police commissioner was making the leap to federal politics.

“I was told it was a done deal,” another senior Conservative said.

Fantino would be expected to ultimately land in cabinet if the Conservatives are re-elected.

Getting the retired and often controversial hard-nosed, law and order former Toronto police chief is considered a coup for the federal Conservatives, who have been courting him for some time.

Ontario Progressive Conservatives were also trying to woo Fantino to run at the provincial level.

Fantino, who could not be reached Wednesday, once told the Star he was not interested in municipal politics because he had his sights set on something bigger.

A veteran Ontario conservative said Liberal Premier Dalton McGuinty was smart enough to take him out of the mix at the provincial level by making him the head of the OPP.

Conservative Senator Bob Runciman said if the 67-year-old Fantino goes for it, he will undoubtedly get a cabinet post.

“He’s probably the best known police officer in Canada today and highly respected. It would be a coup, there’s no question about it,” Runciman told the Star.

“I don’t think there is any question if the Conservatives are still in power that he’d be immediately in cabinet.’’

The longtime Liberal riding opened up in the summer when Maurizio Bevilacqua, the MP for Vaughan for the past 22 years, decided to call it quits to run for Vaughan mayor.

Harper, who has yet to set a date for the Vaughan by-election, may wait and bundle it together with other by-elections across the country, the Star was told.

Two by-elections must be held in Manitoba, and Harper must call one for Winnipeg North by Oct. 27.

Even Liberals believe that Fantino will be difficult to beat, given his profile.

He was once York Region police chief and he lives in the riding in Woodbridge, home to a large Italian-Canadian community.

In an interview last month with the Star, Fantino downplayed talk of his leap into federal politics but stopped well short of denying an interest.

“At this point, I am more interested in decompressing from 42 years of very busy public service, and that’s where it’s at,” Fantino said.

“Who knows what the future will bring?”

Over his years as a police executive Fantino has certainly been an often outspoken and controversial figure.

In 1994, gay activists in London, Ont., accused Fantino, who was then that city’s police chief, of turning a child pornography investigation into a witch hunt against gay men.

Fantino denied any such thing, but acknowledged he should have “communicated, sought out and done a little bit more proactive work with the gay community in London before all of this.”

In 2002, when the Star ran a series of award-winning articles exposing racial bias on the Toronto force, then-chief Fantino flatly denied it existed. The police union launched a $2.7 billion class-action libel lawsuit against the Star. It eventually was dismissed by the Supreme Court of Canada, which upheld a previous decision by the Ontario Superior Court.

Fantino, who presided over the provincial police for almost four years, inherited the complicated Caledonia native standoff from his predecessor Gwen Boniface and his efforts to defuse tensions would land him in hot water.

A local activist, Gary McHale, filed private charges against Fantino, alleging he had attempted to influence municipal politicians, but it took a court in Cayuga a mere 20 minutes to dismiss the allegations.

McHale had alleged that an email Fantino sent to the Haldimand County mayor in 2007 constituted a threat. The court disagreed.

It has been suggested that Fantino would have to change his position on the long-gun registry in order to fit in with the Conservative caucus but, in fact, he was one chief to speak out against the registry, as he did in 2003 when he was Toronto police chief.

A spokesperson for Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair pointed out the registry back then, before the RCMP assumed responsibility for it in 2006, was not the system it is today.


http://www.thestar.com/news/ca.....ughan?bn=1
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its certainly going to be an interesting series of races;

Two CPC Ridings
One NDP Riding
One BQ Riding
One Liberal Riding

Everyone has some skin in the game, and everyone has something to gain or lose.

While no seat should be taken forgranted, Prince George—Peace River is one of the most right of center seats in Canada and I don't see the NDP or the Green who finished second and third respectively putting up too much of a fight,

And I don't see Dauphin–Swan River–Marquette not being retained; they are both pretty well the CPC equivalent to "416 Ridings" for the Liberals.

Winnipeg North will be a NDP hold,

And then we get into the two that are interesting,

Vaughan much like Kingston and the Islands is not a Liberal stronghold but rather an incumbent stronghold, I think the CPC makes a run of it regardless of Fantino being the Candidate or not.

Where matters get very very interesting is Haute-Gaspésie.

Can Allen Cormier's popularity trump Nancy Charest?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I wish the Tories good luck in winning more seats I have to be honest and say that Fantino is no coup as far as I am concerned.

Fantino has proven himself to be little more then a willing " jackboot" with his selective arrests and prosecutions over the Caledonia Affair. Just ask the brown family.

"Stop calling because we aren't coming to help you"

http://voiceofcanada.wordpress.....911-calls/


He made a mockery of the motto to serve and protect unless of course your name is Dalton.

Surely the CPC can do better then this...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a bad idea (Caledonia).
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( well now its official , fantino is the candidate in Vaughan )

Former Ont. top cop Fantino to run as Tory candidate

Julian Fantino laughs with his wife Liviana after announcing his intention to run for federal Parliament in a news conference in Woodbridge, Ont., on Tuesday Oct. 12, 2010. (Frank Gunn / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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Date: Tue. Oct. 12 2010 11:02 AM ET

The former top cop for both Toronto and Ontario announced Tuesday he will once again be donning blue duds -- but this time as a candidate for the federal Conservative party.

Julian Fantino, former commissioner of the Ontario Provincial Police, and former chief of the Toronto Police, made the announcement Tuesday morning in Woodbridge, Ont.

Fantino, admitting the announcement was "not the best-kept secret," said he will run as a Tory in an upcoming byelection in the riding of Vaughan, north of Toronto.

"Even today after having stood and engaged and undertaken many challenges I feel very humbled to be here at this stage in my life to pursue this nomination," Fantino said.

The riding had been held by Liberal MP Maurizio Bevilacqua, who vacated the post to run for mayor of Vaughan.

The Conservatives appear to be throwing heavy firepower at the riding in an attempt to win the seat, after the well-known, longtime Liberal stepped aside.

Bevilacqua, who ran unsuccessfully for the leadership of the Liberal party in 2006, served the riding for 22 years.

Fantino wasted no time wading into a controversial issue that is likey to be front and centre in the next federal election.

He said he believes the controversial long gun registry, which the Conservatives are seeking to abolish, "has not deterred gun crime in this country, from my experience."

Many police chiefs have defended the gun registry as an important tool that police use every day. But Fantino said the more useful aspects of gun crime legislation are background checks, licensing reguirements, safe storage legislation and rules around purchasing ammunition.

Though Fantino's website itself wouldn't open on Tuesday morning, the URL www.julianfantino.ca led to a Conservative Party of Canada title bar, hinting at the coming announcement.

The byelection in Vaughan, which has not yet been officially announced, is widely expected to be held in December.


http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopS.....ve-101012/
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to wonder if this will hurt the Tories in the long run,

I have no opinion positive, negative or otherwise as it pertains to Fantino, however a few posters seem very opposed to the idea which leads me to be a little concerned.

The Liberals stood to lose Vaughn or at least get one heck of a challenge in Vaughn regardless of who the CPC candidate was. Losing this riding while the Tories, NDP and potentially Bloc hold onto their ridings will once again hurt the optics of the Liberal party, but I have to wonder at what price?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please stop with blaming Fantino and the OPP about Caledonia. Blame McGuinty and the provincial bureaucrats... and then right on up to Parliament Hill and the bureaucrats there.

I am pleased that an ex-cop, a chief of police, who held several responsible and successful positions, is running. A change from lawyers. Not that I have anything against lawyers, especially when one needs them.

I believe that Fantino, in a way, is like Rob Ford running for mayor in liberal/socialist Toronto.

Even teachers and other union members have had it with their leaders telling them who to vote for while their services and pocket books diminish.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop Blaming Fantino for the way he handled Caledonia?

Blame it on the politicians and bureaucrats? WTF?

The Man was the head of the OPP, he was supposed to apply the rule of law, remember the laws of this land?

When you selectively apply the law based on political ideology, race or religion because of pressure from your political masters, that makes you a jackboot, a puppet of said politico. The CPC should be ashamed to have this once honourable man who shirked his duty to the taxpaying public based on a politicians fear of ever getting elected if they followed the laws of this Province. I hate puppets , you never know who is pulling just what string when or where.

The law is the law, grow some balls, do your duty enforce the laws or quit and just stop pretending the law actually means anything in this country anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymama... at times you seem to be limited with your information. Howver, it's understandable when the provincial and federal governments, mainly buruacrats are involved with the native issues.

If the problem involves native rerserves, burial grounds, whatever, it is touchy.

If Fantino was given the order by Squinty McGuinty he likely would have served your and the Caledonia's needs. But then many might have said he was like redneck Mike Harris. And I liked Harris's Common Sense platform.

Fantino is a brilliant move to shake things up and, he will contribute to making changes to our lax jurisprudence systems and criminal laws.

A detective friend of mine has been trying hard to breakthrough a Liberal ridiing and he would also add to the government should he win the next time. I like cops, the majority of them and try to understand what they have to go through.

You make it sound slam-bang it's easy. Go and try... unhinged one.
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