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Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Natural Born Losers - Ann Coulter Reply with quote

I like Ann Coulter's brash and honest comments... and her sky-high legs are not bad either.

Natural-Born Losers
by Ann Coulter


10/14/2009

The question of whether President Obama should send more troops to Afghanistan misses the point.

What Obama really needs to do is: Invent a time machine, go back to the 2008 presidential campaign and not say, over and over and over again, that Afghanistan was a "war of necessity" while the war in Iraq was a "war of choice." (Oh, and as long as you're back there, ditch Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett and that gay "school safety" czar.)

The most important part of warfare is picking your battlefield, and President Bush picked Iraq for a reason.

Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan attacked us on 9/11 -- or the dozen other times American embassies, barracks and buildings came under jihadist onslaught since Jimmy Carter presided over "regime change" in Iran in 1979. Both countries -- and others -- gave succor to terrorists who had attacked the U.S. repeatedly, and would do so again.

As liberals endlessly reminded us during the three weeks of war in Afghanistan before the U.S. military swept into Kabul, Afghanistan has all the makings of a military disaster. It is mountainous, cave-pocked, tribal, has no resources worth fighting for and a populace that makes Khalid Sheikh Mohammed look like Alistair Cooke.

By contrast, Iraq had a relatively educated, pro-Western populace, but was ruled by a brutal third-world despot.

It's always something with the Muslims. You either have mostly sane people governed by a crazy dictator -- Iraq, Iran and Syria (also California and Michigan) -- or a crazy people governed by relatively sane leaders -- Pakistan and Afghanistan, post-U.S. invasion (also Vermont and Minnesota). There are also insane people ruled by insane leaders (but enough about the House Democratic Caucus). Sane people with sane rulers has not been fully tried yet.

Not only could regime change in Iraq work, but Iraq's countryside was susceptible to America's overwhelming air power. Also, Iraq has fabulous natural resources. Once the U.S. got control of Iraq's oil fields, the Shia, Sunni and Kurds could decide to either prosper together or starve together. (And it's not just oil: They're basically sitting on top of most of the world's proven reserves of cab drivers.)

By contrast, there aren't a lot of sticks that can be used in a wasteland like Afghanistan, where the people live in caves and scratch out a living in the dirt. The only "carrot" we might be able to offer them would be actual carrots.

But Democrats couldn't care less about military strategy -- at least any "strategy" that doesn't involve allowing soldiers to date one another. To the extent you can get liberals to focus on national security at all, you will find they are rooting against their own country.

Liberals sneered at Bush's description of Iraq as the "central front of the war on terror" and a step toward the "democratization of the Middle East" -- as Mark Danner did in the Sept. 11, 2005, New York Times -- because sneering was all they could do. By design, Iraq was the central front in the war on terrorism.

Any fanatic who hated the Great Satan, owned an overnight bag and was not already working for The New York Times was lured across the border into Iraq ... to be met by the awesome force of the U.S. military. Bush chose the battlefield that made the best flytrap for Islamic crazies and also that was most amenable to regime change.

Now nearly all denizens of the Middle East want the U.S. to invade them, so they can live in democracy, too. As Thomas Friedman inadvertently admitted, Lebanese voters credit their recent free election, in which the voters threw out Hezbollah, to President Bush. (American liberals, naturally, gave the credit to Obama, who they also believe is responsible for the sun rising every morning.)

Brave Iranian students who protested the tyrant Ahmadinejad did so because of Iraq -- and then they stopped because of Obama's indifference. Sadly for them, America's foreign policy will now be based on a calculus of political correctness, not national security.

During the campaign, Obama prattled on about Iraq being a "war of choice" and Afghanistan a "war of necessity" for no more thoughtful reason than a desire to win standing ovations from treasonous liberals.

But lo and behold, those very liberals who were champing at the bit to fight in Afghanistan are suddenly full of objections to the war there, too. As Frank Rich points out: "Afghanistan is not Iraq. It is poorer, even larger and more populous, more fragmented and less historically susceptible to foreign intervention."

Now they notice.

Afghanistan is a brutal battlefield, largely invulnerable to modern warfare -- something the British and Russians learned. But as our military under Bush showed the world in 21 days, scimitar-wielding savages are no match for the voluntary civilian troops of a free people.

Bush removed the Taliban from power, captured or killed the lunatics and, for the next seven years, about the only news we heard out of Afghanistan were occasional announcements of parliamentary elections, new schools, water and electricity plants.

The difficult choice Obama faces in Afghanistan is entirely of his own making, not his generals' and certainly not Bush's. It was Obama's meaningless blather about Afghanistan being a "war of necessity" during the campaign that has moved the central front in the war on terrorism from Iraq -- a good battleground for the U.S. -- to Afghanistan -- a lousy battlefront for the U.S.

And it was Obama's idea to treat war as if it's an ordinary drug bust, reading suspects their Miranda rights and taking care not to put civilians in harm's way.

A Democrat is president and, once again, America finds itself in an "unwinnable war." I know Democrats will never learn, but I wish the voters would.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coulter seems to rub some folks wrong but I don't mind her at all.

-Mac
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ann is a woman after my own heart ( so to speak) A strong intelligent witty woman who is not afraid to go against the grain.

( Yes I agree she has long legs, but don't you think is is a tad too thin? :roll: )
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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By contrast, there aren't a lot of sticks that can be used in a wasteland like Afghanistan, where the people live in caves and scratch out a living in the dirt. The only "carrot" we might be able to offer them would be actual carrots.


Spot on.

It took 700 years after Magna Carta for women to get the right to vote. In 7 years we are not going to turn a feudal society into a functioning democracy.

It's time to bring the troops home.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In 7 years we are not going to turn a feudal society into a functioning democracy.


My preference would be to turn that sh**thole into a glass parking lot in 7 minutes (or less).

Bring the troops home once we've installed a puppet regime that can stand 70% on it's own (f**k democracy - I'll settle for a lap dog, anti-Taliban dictator. If these lice ridden, drug addicted, primates are too mentally stunted from years of village inbreeding to get their OWN shit together then let's give them what their used to - a dictatorship).
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forward wrote:
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In 7 years we are not going to turn a feudal society into a functioning democracy.


My preference would be to turn that sh**thole into a glass parking lot in 7 minutes (or less).

Bring the troops home once we've installed a puppet regime that can stand 70% on it's own (f**k democracy - I'll settle for a lap dog, anti-Taliban dictator. If these lice ridden, drug addicted, primates are too mentally stunted from years of village inbreeding to get their OWN shit together then let's give them what their used to - a dictatorship).


My perspective is this:

If someone attacks you, you take them out.
If you start a war, you finish it.
The attack on the World Trade Centre was planned and organized by the same people planting IED's. If they get back in power they will do the same thing again. (BTW, I know the Taliban and Al Queda are technically two different organizations)

As for your attitude towards the Afgan people - its a little ignorant. Actually, more than a little.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
Coulter seems to rub some folks wrong but I don't mind her at all.

-Mac


She is what she is. For rallying the "angry white man" side of the party, she is usefull. In terms of converting people to a conservative perspective, she is useless. She is mean and rabidly partisan.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiscalconservative wrote:
She is what she is. For rallying the "angry white man" side of the party, she is usefull. In terms of converting people to a conservative perspective, she is useless. She is mean and rabidly partisan.

I've read a number of her articles and one of her books. She's not that mean; rather she is intolerant of fools and hypocrites. Since the Democratic Party is rife with both, she appears partisan but I'm not sure such is the case.

How much of her work have you read? Can you cite specific examples which led you to believe she is mean and partisan?

-Mac
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
fiscalconservative wrote:
She is what she is. For rallying the "angry white man" side of the party, she is usefull. In terms of converting people to a conservative perspective, she is useless. She is mean and rabidly partisan.

I've read a number of her articles and one of her books. She's not that mean; rather she is intolerant of fools and hypocrites. Since the Democratic Party is rife with both, she appears partisan but I'm not sure such is the case.

How much of her work have you read? Can you cite specific examples which led you to believe she is mean and partisan?

-Mac


I have read some of her colums, but not her books.

Here are some quotes..although there are a heck of a lot more. There seems to be a problem with right wing commentators in the US to go over the top to get attention. Limbaugh did it, and it garnered a huge share of the conservative listener. Beck and Coulter are doing the same thing. It brings ratings, but I think those quotes can be used against conservatives. Its kind of a shame, because all three are rather bright people.



http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

"I'm a Christian first, and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second, and don't you ever forget it."

. Iíve never seen people enjoying their husbandsí deaths so much. (on a bunch of 9/11 widows who happened to be Liberal)

"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president" [Helen Thoams is an 80 ish Lebanesse Christian who was a veteran US jouranlist]

My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.

Learning difficulties are a cover for] rich parents with dumb kids...That's why 'Pinch' Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times, is alleged to have dyslexia - because he's retarded.

I think [women] should be armed but should not vote...women have no capacity to understand how money is earned. They have a lot of ideas on how to spend it...it's always more money on education, more money on child care, more money on day care.





"I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo."

"We were terrified that Jones would settle. It was contrary to our purpose of bringing down the president"

"I don't know if [former U.S. President Bill Clinton is] gay. But [former U.S. Vice President] Al Gore - total fag."

"The only place Al Gore conserves energy these days is on the treadmill. I don't want to suggest that Al's getting big, but the last time I saw him on TV I thought, "That reminds me ó we have to do something about saving the polar bears."

"Never mind his carbon footprint ó have you seen the size of Al Gore's regular footprint lately? It's almost as deep as Janet Reno's "

"[Canadians] better hope the United States does not roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent."

"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity (as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed')."

I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word "faggot", so

would like evolution to join the roster of other discredited religions,

(about Bush)
The man responsible for keeping Americans safe from another terrorist attack on American soil for nearly seven years now will go down in history as one of America's
reatest presidents

"I think our motto should be, post-9-11, 'raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences.' "


Also (not from that site)

"corn-fed, no make-up, natural fiber, no-bra needing, sandal-wearing, hirsute, somewhat fragrant hippie chick pie wagons (about certain people attending a Democrat event"

"John Edwards should have been the target of a terrorist assination plot" (I can't remember the quote exactly, but she was wishing Edwards dead.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The emotional syrup of liberalism is designed to lull the mind and inspire the heart... and it works very well, unfortunately. As long as the left can keep people emoting and not thinking, they can herd the sheeple.

I think we can both agree that polite reasonable conservative pundits are basically ignored. So, too, are polite reasonable liberal pundits. Folks like Limbaugh discovered one way to get people's attention is to shock them.

Why did Al Franken titled his book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right"? Can you think of the titles of any other books Franken has written? He has written several, before and since "Lies".

Shock is a double-edge sword since those demanding attention invariable get it so unless their behaviour is impeachable, they get the smear... and sometimes the shock is enough to turn people off completely.

Coulter chose a difficult path. Her "job" is to sell books and columns. Coulter is doubly cursed because she's conservative AND a woman... perhaps triply since she's rather attractive to boot. For those reasons, she has to work even harder to get and sustain attention. She does so by making provocative statements to get people's attention. It works well; Coulter has written several books which have hit #1 on the best-seller lists... and she's been a syndicated columnist for more than a decade.

Can you think any other female pundit regardless of their stripe who has achieved the success of Ann Coulter? I know I can't. The assorted quotes you've pulled are examples of Coulter effectively getting attention. Do you suppose her books and columns are nothing more than a collection of such quotes?

-Mac
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiscalconservative wrote:
Mac wrote:
Coulter seems to rub some folks wrong but I don't mind her at all.

-Mac


She is what she is. For rallying the "angry white man" side of the party, she is usefull. In terms of converting people to a conservative perspective, she is useless. She is mean and rabidly partisan.


The woman has obvious problems and does the right & her country no good. Shes the female verson of Rush Lumpbaugh and they are the types that bring hate and violence out of some Americans instead of understanding and brotherly love.

Sad to see the once great U.S. sinking into an immoral/hatefull/selfish state. :cry:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymama... Coulter's legs thin, perhaps, but shapely... which reminds me of a song "Skinny Legs and All".

And I happen to like listening to Rush Limbaugh, he is spot on, most of the time, even if he happens to be satirically bellicose. I'm always amazed that soemone has the statistics when they comment on how many people like or dislike someone. How did Limbaugh get so mnay syndicated stations and listeners then, I wonder.

Obama's agendas are disliked by quite a few, from what I have heard and read, and this will show up during the 2010 elections. He will end up being a lame duck president with a muzzled beak.

As far as Limbaugh, "CPP", did you read something from the left such as NY Times or watched CNN and this is where you got your solid facts, or is that your brotherly point of view?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edmund Onward James wrote:
crazymama... Coulter's legs thin, perhaps, but shapely... which reminds me of a song "Skinny Legs and All".

And I happen to like listening to Rush Limbaugh, he is spot on, most of the time, even if he happens to be satirically bellicose. I'm always amazed that soemone has the statistics when they comment on how many people like or dislike someone. How did Limbaugh get so mnay syndicated stations and listeners then, I wonder.

Obama's agendas are disliked by quite a few, from what I have heard and read, and this will show up during the 2010 elections. He will end up being a lame duck president with a muzzled beak.

As far as Limbaugh, "CPP", did you read something from the left such as NY Times or watched CNN and this is where you got your solid facts, or is that your brotherly point of view?


Perhaps I got it from 'Fox' the station of brotherly love unless one is a visible minority. :wink:

As for the 2010 elections, the Republicans had better get their act together and find an intelligent/compassionate leader or the states will continue its downward financial/morale spiral as it did under King George Bush II.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPP... reminds me of a song "Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread".

You must be an Obama fan, he comes across passionate like a thespian in a play and the stage is the world. BHO went to Jeremiah Wright's church of brotherly love and is friends with Jesse Jackson who calls Jews, Hymies.

The Israelis need support not a "man-child" as Rush Limbaugh calls him, as Commander-In-Chief of America.

Furthermore, the financial crisis was not Bush's fault, at least not the majority of the problem, but there's enough information out there for you to find out. You can start by checking my weblog archives, plenty of pictures, if you happen to enjoy imagery such as comic books. Indeed, you seem to be somewhat limited or completely bias, to the left, or some other special interest anti-Bush, anti-GOP, anti-wisdom.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bush removed the Taliban from power, captured or killed the lunatics and, for the next seven years, about the only news we heard out of Afghanistan were occasional announcements of parliamentary elections, new schools, water and electricity plants.

The difficult choice Obama faces in Afghanistan is entirely of his own making, not his generals' and certainly not Bush's. It was Obama's meaningless blather about Afghanistan being a "war of necessity" during the campaign that has moved the central front in the war on terrorism from Iraq -- a good battleground for the U.S. -- to Afghanistan -- a lousy battlefront for the U.S.


Thats stretching the truth, it may have been true for the north, but it sure as hell wasn't for the south. That is unless all of the posters on here seem to think their were no Canadian troop deaths between Jan. 20, 2009 and 2005.

Quote:
You must be an Obama fan, he comes across passionate like a thespian in a play and the stage is the world. BHO went to Jeremiah Wright's church of brotherly love and is friends with Jesse Jackson who calls Jews, Hymies.


Wasn't Rush Limbaugh and pretty well the entire Republican establishment friends with two pastors who essentially stated that America was to blame for 9/11 due to its tolerance of the gays and feminists.

Masochism is prominent on both the left and right.
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