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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anything should stop people from being critical of any given religion.

However too many people who choose to be critical of a religion are ignorant of its dogma much of the time and instead resort to mudslinging.

In doing so they close themselves off to perhaps being wrong and instead convince themselves that they're right and will not listen to reason making any reasonable discussion nonexistent akin to impossible.

I'm Catholic so I am used to people having preconceived notions of what my faith is and isn't. Once I tell people I'm Catholic(if they ask) they seem to shut down any sense of reason and won't admit when I prove them wrong for example.

Religion is a private thing for everyone to decide on their own and with any belief system you'll have people that agree or disagree with you and there's no changing their minds. I pray for them, I really do.

Religion becomes a problem when it's thrust into the public eye by some catastrophic event then for a short time people are hyper critical of it and describe any followers as inherently evil which is absurd imo.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People willing to kill you, is pretty much the cat's ass in regards to stopping people from doing something.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The answer to your question is numbers.

If Islam had 1000 followers world wide it would be considered on par with that cult that thought a space ship was behind an approaching comet. But because billions follow Islam it is considered normal and given a free pass. Democracy may be the best system out there but even it has its drawbacks.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Religion is a private thing for everyone to decide on their own and with any belief system you'll have people that agree or disagree with you and there's no changing their minds. I pray for them, I really do.


I'm not a fan of proselytization. In a multi-religious society we find many faiths and within Christianity many variations of the same faith. We function best when we respect the right of others to think differently

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Religion becomes a problem when it's thrust into the public eye by some catastrophic event then for a short time people are hyper critical of it and describe any followers as inherently evil which is absurd imo.


There are professional religion bashers all over. And in the last 48 hours the level of anti-Catholic comment has ramped up as a result of the NS bishop being found with kiddie porn. I don't believe the entire Catholic Church should be condemned because of his actions and that of a few others.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Religion divides people. Religion is the opium of the people.

Religions are dogmas put in your heads when you were children. You were born in a Muslim country, then you're a Muslim by mimicking your peers like sheep, not by choice or common sense. You were born in a Christian city, well ditto of course. Get the point? Religions are the worst obstacles to rational free thinking, and mankind will not evolve half of its potential as long as they are around.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan A. wrote:
Religion divides people. Religion is the opium of the people.

Religions are dogmas put in your heads when you were children. You were born in a Muslim country, then you're a Muslim by mimicking your peers like sheep, not by choice or common sense. You were born in a Christian city, well ditto of course. Get the point? Religions are the worst obstacles to rational free thinking, and mankind will not evolve half of its potential as long as they are around.



Amen to that Alan,

Isn't it great how today we as a world are paying homage, marking to the 60th anniversary of Mao's cultural revolution?

Just this afternoon I was witnessing the coverage on CNN explaining how far China has come as a result. To think it only took the deaths of some 26 Million people.

I love how coolly rational it's current government is in realizing the untapped potential of the organ Black market. Cool how they use executed prisoners organs, sort of the ultimate recycling right? Never let a chance to raise funds for the treasury go un tapped I aways say.


I loved the fact that abortion was a no-brainer there to. As a matter of fact if you already have a child they will come and service you, whether your interested or not, free of charge. No questions asked. Thats just great!

But wow now CHINA is seeing it potential finally being reached.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And like any other property owner, religions shouldnt be exempt from paying reality (municipal) taxes.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymamma wrote:
Alan A. wrote:
Religion divides people. Religion is the opium of the people.

Religions are dogmas put in your heads when you were children. You were born in a Muslim country, then you're a Muslim by mimicking your peers like sheep, not by choice or common sense. You were born in a Christian city, well ditto of course. Get the point? Religions are the worst obstacles to rational free thinking, and mankind will not evolve half of its potential as long as they are around.



Amen to that Alan,

Isn't it great how today we as a world are paying homage, marking to the 60th anniversary of Mao's cultural revolution?

Just this afternoon I was witnessing the coverage on CNN explaining how far China has come as a result. To think it only took the deaths of some 26 Million people.

I love how coolly rational it's current government is in realizing the untapped potential of the organ Black market. Cool how they use executed prisoners organs, sort of the ultimate recycling right? Never let a chance to raise funds for the treasury go un tapped I aways say.


I loved the fact that abortion was a no-brainer there to. As a matter of fact if you already have a child they will come and service you, whether your interested or not, free of charge. No questions asked. Thats just great!

But wow now CHINA is seeing it potential finally being reached.


Interesting. Good satire. But I think you're missing the essence of one major point, which is about religion as a slap in the face of rationality and free thinking. If belonging to the religion of the community you were born in and you grew up into, won't make you a person showing higher moral standards, the contrary is also true. Religion is not synonymous with goodness (or evil). But the absence of religion doesn't make people better either, as you demonstrate it. More freethinking wouldn't necessarily translate into improvement of humankind, I have to agree with you and take that thought back.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan I think you are missing the point. Religion is indeed neither good or bad, lack of religion is neither good or bad.

My contention is mankind is a faulty beast. It is always in thrall with something that it is willing to kill others for.There seems to be an inherent need to prove oneself to be superior to others and as a consequence of that superiority a freedom to heap atrocities upon the "enemy" is easily justified. Religion, ideology, politics are merely the device used by whomever to switch the lever that is always present in the beast.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymamma wrote:
Alan I think you are missing the point. Religion is indeed neither good or bad, lack of religion is neither good or bad.

My contention is mankind is a faulty beast. It is always in thrall with something that it is willing to kill others for.There seems to be an inherent need to prove oneself to be superior to others and as a consequence of that superiority a freedom to heap atrocities upon the "enemy" is easily justified. Religion, ideology, politics are merely the device used by whomever to switch the lever that is always present in the beast.



"(...)a freedom to heap atrocities upon the "enemy" is easily justified. Religion, ideology, politics are merely the device used by whomever to switch the lever that is always present in the beast".
Well put. Love that.

Very well understood and agreed (maybe I wasn't clear, but we're basically saying the same thing about that part of the argument. I was just trying to raise another argument too about religions globally as a challenge to freethinking and intelligence, but never mind; it's better not to go there I reckon).
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