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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: Muslim Demographics Reply with quote


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Craig
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to think women and gays vote Liberal. Wake up people. If you like Islam so much move to Egypt.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig, thanks for making this sticky.

Here in Toronto, you get to meet people from all the cultures. I have found that people from all the communities, who came significantly close to Muslims have exactly the same complains. For instance, they don't assimilate, don't respect the state laws, call for violent conversions, rape etc etc. The only exceptions are the Iranians and Ismailis. They are usually surprisingly different. I even met a lot of Iranian (western) conservatives.

Anyways, the point that this video was trying to put across was that the way we interpret demographics is wrong. We can't continue to say 2% of the population is Muslims. We need to look at the percentage of the young population, who are Muslims. It's much higher than 2%. These young kids will grow up and make up the new demographics as the older folks start to pass way. [For instance, in France probably 20-30% kids are Muslims].

Most Christian families I know have no kids or max 2 kids. Muslim families always have more than 3 kids. I knew one person in high school that had 7 siblings. He was living in poverty and had to drop out. However, he still wants to have 7/8 kids after marriage. Islam encourages Muslims to have lots of kids. ["'Marry fertile women, I will be showing off your large number of the day of resurrection.']

We need to see what happened to areas where the Muslim population rose significantly. For instance, Lebanon, an ex-Christian majority state, appeased the Muslim population a lot when they were minority. As soon as the Muslim population hit a significant portion they called for an Islamic state. Look at what's going on in France. The population is 7-8% and now all chaos. It will soon hit 25% and then they will call for Islamic states 100%. We can look at the history of India-Pakistan creation as well and it's the same story. When Muslim population rises to a certain point they call for Islamic states.

Putting things into perspective, soon we will have 10% of our population Muslim as we have a significant immigrant population. We already had to go through Shariah chapter and it's not over yet. What's going on in France will repeat here in Canada. There is no way to stop this now because to change demographics you need to wait at least 30 years.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that scared the jihad out of me...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RuralandRight wrote:
Well that scared the jihad out of me...


Better keep that Berka on then. :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I blame consumerism and commercialism. People would rather have a 60 inch HDTV than a child. We need to end free trade and enact protectionism. Sure we wouldn't be able to buy $30 DVD players anymore but maybe our priorities would be properly adjusted as a consequence. Not to mention that we would no longer be funding the growth of the Chinese military. We have become an ultra-greedy me me me society that takes no personal responsibility and values possessions more than people. Either we enact protectionism and shift taxation to consumption from income drastically or we end immigration from countries that don't share our values.

I agree with your statements about other cultures. I am a big fan of the Chinese - they are the most polite and respectful people on the planet. In terms of religions Hindus, Buddhists, Jews are all respectful religions that don't radiate hatred and seethe world domination. Canadians need to grow a backbone and stand up to a religion that is oppressive to gays and women and completely inconsistent with Canadian values.

Unfortunately, the Liberals are allying themselves with Islam for the sake of votes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
I blame consumerism and commercialism. People would rather have a 60 inch HDTV than a child. We need to end free trade and enact protectionism. Sure we wouldn't be able to buy $30 DVD players anymore but maybe our priorities would be properly adjusted as a consequence. Not to mention that we would no longer be funding the growth of the Chinese military. We have become an ultra-greedy me me me society that takes no personal responsibility and values possessions more than people. Either we enact protectionism and shift taxation to consumption from income drastically or we end immigration from countries that don't share our values.

I agree with your statements about other cultures. I am a big fan of the Chinese - they are the most polite and respectful people on the planet. In terms of religions Hindus, Buddhists, Jews are all respectful religions that don't radiate hatred and seethe world domination. Canadians need to grow a backbone and stand up to a religion that is oppressive to gays and women and completely inconsistent with Canadian values.

Unfortunately, the Liberals are allying themselves with Islam for the sake of votes.


I blame it on environmentalists and the wacky left who freak out when you have just one child, let alone more than one child.

I also blame it on our society who does not care to deal with consequence, because life is made “easier” with the pill and condoms.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reference Pim Fortuyn. It's funny that in Europe the cause of gay and womens rights is now predominantely an issue being taken up by right wing politicians. It wouldn't surprise me if the same happens in Canada.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This video is a crock of sh*t.

First, it assumes that Muslims will not breed with Non-Muslims. Second, it assumes that those who immigrate here from Muslim countries will remain Muslim and their children will remain Muslim.

The West is seeing a mass immigration of Muslims as most of the countries Muslims immigrate from are third world. It has bloody nothing to do with taking over the world or a "secret plot". It has to do with seeking a better life.

Who cares what Religion you are, it's all garbage anyways. Further, all religions are similar. Each Religion has moderates and extremists and all extremist are dangerous.

Canada was not founded on any one religion or any one culture. I welcome other from Muslims countries with open arms.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SmartCon wrote:
This video is a crock of sh*t.

First, it assumes that Muslims will not breed with Non-Muslims. Second, it assumes that those who immigrate here from Muslim countries will remain Muslim and their children will remain Muslim.

The West is seeing a mass immigration of Muslims as most of the countries Muslims immigrate from are third world. It has bloody nothing to do with taking over the world or a "secret plot". It has to do with seeking a better life.

Who cares what Religion you are, it's all garbage anyways. Further, all religions are similar. Each Religion has moderates and extremists and all extremist are dangerous.

Canada was not founded on any one religion or any one culture. I welcome other from Muslims countries with open arms.


You are still a Dhimmi and will be subject to a non-Muslim tax (assuming you are a believer - if not you will be executed).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
You are still a Dhimmi and will be subject to a non-Muslim tax (assuming you are a believer - if not you will be executed).


You are saying the majority of Muslims will murder "non-believers"? You know very little about Islam obviously. Craig, I don't think you know about anything other than computers and what your pastor tells you.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SmartCon wrote:
You are saying the majority of Muslims will murder "non-believers"? You know very little about Islam obviously.


I know what it says in the Koran.

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pastor tells you.


Pastor? You don't know me very well.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
SmartCon wrote:
You are saying the majority of Muslims will murder "non-believers"? You know very little about Islam obviously.


I know what it says in the Koran.

Quote:
pastor tells you.


Pastor? You don't know me very well.


Please enlighten me as to where in the Koran it gives authority to anyone other than Allah to hurt anyone?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SmartCon wrote:
Craig wrote:
SmartCon wrote:
You are saying the majority of Muslims will murder "non-believers"? You know very little about Islam obviously.


I know what it says in the Koran.

Quote:
pastor tells you.


Pastor? You don't know me very well.


Please enlighten me as to where in the Koran it gives authority to anyone other than Allah to hurt anyone?


It gives me great pleasure to enlighten you (via a 5 second google search - you should try it sometime)...

http://nowscape.com/islam/koran_sura.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SmartCon wrote:
This video is a crock of sh*t.

First, it assumes that Muslims will not breed with Non-Muslims. Second, it assumes that those who immigrate here from Muslim countries will remain Muslim and their children will remain Muslim.

The West is seeing a mass immigration of Muslims as most of the countries Muslims immigrate from are third world. It has bloody nothing to do with taking over the world or a "secret plot". It has to do with seeking a better life.

Who cares what Religion you are, it's all garbage anyways. Further, all religions are similar. Each Religion has moderates and extremists and all extremist are dangerous.

Canada was not founded on any one religion or any one culture. I welcome other from Muslims countries with open arms.


I couldn't agree more. Two of my best friends happen to be muslims. I told both of them to cut the whole religion crap when we get together, as I do with people of all religions including my parents (one of which has stopped talking to me ever since; a christian... there you go). You have to be free of any religious cultural tie to be able to see the big picture more clearly otherwise you're naturally biased.
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