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RCO





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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Liberal party racing into the black ? Reply with quote

Liberal party racing into the black

By CHRISTINA SPENCER, NATIONAL BUREAU

The Ottawa Sun


Ignatieff suggests North Pole as global 'public park'



OTTAWA -- The federal Liberal party is scooping up donations like a turbo-charged back-hoe and its national director says it will soon clear its $2-million debt.

Rocco Rossi told Sun Media yesterday the party likely will escape from the red by the time of the Liberal biennial convention in Vancouver later this month "or shortly thereafter." As well, he said first-quarter fundraising for 2009 was "significantly better" than the same period in 2008, though he could not provide numbers.

SUCKED IN MILLIONS

Under former leader Stephane Dion, the Liberals raised a dismal $846,000 in the first quarter of last year. For all of 2008, they drew $5.9 million. Meanwhile, the Conservatives sucked in $21.9 million.

Rossi called the fundraising gap "a fundamental threat to democracy" because it meant the Grits couldn't pay to get their message out properly.

Recruited by current leader Michael Ignatieff after four successful years as CEO of the Heart and Stroke Foundation, the outspoken Rossi said his party must rapidly reform its fundraising techniques.


"The Conservatives have been much more adept at adapting themselves to the new fundraising environment, and the Liberals didn't," he said. While past rules permitted large corporate or individual donations to a party, the current limit is $1,100 per individual.

'TOO SUCCESSFUL'

"We were too successful in the old system at both corporate and large gifts, and when you're successful at something, you build systems around that and when that changes, it becomes very hard."

The Tories, by contrast, benefited from their marriage to the Reform party with its grassroots traditions "of passing the hat in church basements," he said.

One skill Rossi says the Liberals shouldn't perfect is attack advertising.

"I think if the (Barack) Obama experience taught us anything, it's that people are looking for hope. People are not looking for games and I think it's particularly heightened by the economic crisis."

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Po.....1-sun.html
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a little skeptical of this story considering there fundraiser does not even provide any solid numbers of how much money they have actualy raised or what they still owed from the previous campaigns still . it seems like the liberals are just trying to put some good news about there party out there and get press maybe or try and create positive buzz ? but i'm skeptical about the party just months after an expensive election loss is really anywhere near the black .
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They had to learn how to deal with the new rules eventually.

Seems all that pragmatism and moving to the center is working really well for the Conservatives too. Obviously, people do not want any principle in their politics.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not surprised,

The reality is no one was happy with Dion,
It just simply ended up being an issue of pride with the Rae camp refusing to vote for Ignatieff and vice versa.

When all the smoke cleared pride prevailed and the Liberal Party was left with a meek and uninteresting leader.

And Meek and Uninteresting doesn't get people to open their wallets.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



MOAR DOUBLE DIPPING .... MOAR 'SNORT' 'SNORT' HELPINGS ... 'GRUNT' AD SCAM 'SNORT' 'GRUNT' LIBERAL $1.95 'SNORT' PER VOTE 'SNORT' 'GRUNT' ENTITLEMENTS 'GRUNT' 'GRUNT' .... 'SNORT' 'GRUNT'

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
Not surprised,

The reality is no one was happy with Dion,
It just simply ended up being an issue of pride with the Rae camp refusing to vote for Ignatieff and vice versa.

When all the smoke cleared pride prevailed and the Liberal Party was left with a meek and uninteresting leader.

And Meek and Uninteresting doesn't get people to open their wallets.


well of course it wasn't working for dion and also the fact the liberals had just been kicked out of office no doubt didn't help there fundraising efforts either . as people are sometimes paying for influence with the government and mp .

so the question might be why is ignatieff doing better in fundraising ? could it be as simple as the liberals were actually trying now ? as they maybe weren't under dion . one thing that will hurt them is the yearly limit , as i suspect alot of there donors would have already reached that level ( yearly limit per individual ) if they had some big fundraisers . they'll have to wait another year to donate that amount again .
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's hope the media blares this kind of headline far and wide. Chances are that'll cause the Liberal donors to close their wallets almost as tightly as their minds.

-Mac
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This "Leadership contest" double dipping had nothing to do with the surge in LPC funds?

Plus there was that $90,000 fee for entering the 'Leadership contest' to appoint the Puffin King.

And donations to 'former' Leadership contest Candidates
Former Leadership Candidate Donations
"To make a contribution to support a Liberal Party of Canada Leadership contestant, please select from the box below..."


And Sponge Bob Rae is still in the leadership non race - 'Leadership contest'.
2009 Leadership Candidate Donations
"To make a contribution to support a Liberal Party of Canada Leadership contestant please click their name below.

Bob Rae
Michael Ignatieff"


Strange that Liberal.ca is stating the above when Iggys blog is stating that ...
"Although there is only one candidate for the Leadership of the Liberal Party of Canada, Michael Ignatieff's campaign continues to incur expenses ..."

Then there was that 'Canadian Coalition Coup Party' demand to keep the $1.95 per vote tax payer subsidy that will pay over a Million dollars to the LPC in 2009 ... Cha Ching!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should get Canada Revenue Agency to investigate, but maybe they are double dipping themselves!
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