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Should the olg have to buy Ontario made cars?
Yes
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 28%  [ 4 ]
No
64%
 64%  [ 9 ]
Pigs go bahh bahh
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Cool Blue





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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Andrew Coyne, the reason why we can`t sell GM cars in Japan and Korea is because they drive on the left-hand side of roads there and...wait for it....

...GM doesn`t make models that feature steering wheels on the right side.

So, if Coyne is correct, it`s not so much the unfair policies of other countries as it is the stupid management of the companies again.
RuralandRight





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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In South Korea they drive on the Right and in Japan on the left.

Rusty Bedsprings wrote:
canuck wrote:
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Ha ha ha! Next you'll tell me we can always rely on the Liberals to stand for ethics.


No, no :lol: but I know we as North Americans get ripped off hugely by the oriental countries because they don't let us sell gm, ford etc cars there but we have to let them sell here. The ndp are the only ones who seem to care about this issue, it really boggles my mind.


Ford in Japan
http://www.ford.co.jp/servlet/.....ame=DFY/JP
Ford in Korea
http://www.ford-korea.com/
GM in Korea
http://www.gm.com/corporate/ab.....c/kore.jsp
GM in Japan
http://www.gm.com/corporate/ab.....c/japa.jsp
GM in China
http://www.gm.com/corporate/ab.....c/chin.jsp
GM in Asia Pacific
http://www.gm.com/corporate/ab...../index.jsp
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frank wrote:
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The OLG should be disbanded. Too much corruption involved.


I bet every lottery corp. is.
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RuralandRight:

http://www.jstor.org/pss/132709

If there is no protectionism in Asia then why does it keep on coming up?
RuralandRight





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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course there is protectionism in Japan, the tariffs on foreign made automobiles are astronomical, but they are available for purchase even if they have to be retrofitted from a left hand drive to a right.

I was only pointing out that you were incorrect in stating ...

Rusty Bedsprings wrote:
...but I know we as North Americans get ripped off hugely by the oriental countries because they don't let us sell gm, ford etc cars there but we have to let them sell here.


I do agree that they tariffs that Japan and Korea put on North American made vehicles is unfair, I am unsure why this practise takes place.

As a Canadian Honda employee I fear the day cheep cars begin arriving from China.

Don't forget that Honda and Toyota provides thousands, if not 10's of thousands of well paying manufacturing jobs in Ontario.
Toyota in North America
http://www.toyota.com/about/ou.....facturing/
Honda in North America.
http://corporate.honda.com/pre.....0704023919
FF_Canuck





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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RuralandRight wrote:
As a Canadian Honda employee I fear the day cheep cars begin arriving from China...

I'm wondering if we'll see Indian cars or Chinese cars first. I'd like to see some trade agreements with India, even though there's not a lot of political will for it.
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm wondering if we'll see Indian cars or Chinese cars first. I'd like to see some trade agreements with India, even though there's not a lot of political will for it.


Many think that India's better than china (politically) and largely I agree with you. Though china controls it's people, India has Hindu extremists who burn down christian orphanages and blow up christian hospitals. Ya :shock: it's true, I don't know why it's not reported more. And while china is communist, India has the caste system.

Bush has greatly strengthened our ties with India though so maybe we will see cars come over from a democratic country.
FF_Canuck





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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW, some Indian immigrants I've known have told me that the caste system, and much of the religious strife, are mostly restricted to isolated rural areas. The economic core of the country is modernizing rapidly. Growing middle classes tend to erase old divisions like that over time, IMO.
cosmostein





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF_Canuck wrote:
RuralandRight wrote:
As a Canadian Honda employee I fear the day cheep cars begin arriving from China...

I'm wondering if we'll see Indian cars or Chinese cars first. I'd like to see some trade agreements with India, even though there's not a lot of political will for it.


With Tata now owning Jaguar and Land Rover they basically have a foot in the retail doorway already.
Cool Blue





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I do agree that they tariffs that Japan and Korea put on North American made vehicles is unfair, I am unsure why this practise takes place.


The union logic in the situation has always baffled me:

We oppose free trade with these countries because of their tariffs and we should not negotiate free trade with them until they drop the tariffs....

Free trade is ABOUT removing tariffs!
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuck wrote:
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FWIW, some Indian immigrants I've known have told me that the caste system, and much of the religious strife, are mostly restricted to isolated rural areas. The economic core of the country is modernizing rapidly. Growing middle classes tend to erase old divisions like that over time, IMO.


Ya, I just don't see them as a great country (globally), in that region they are great (thank you "imperialist" :roll: Britain for installing democracy and western values)
FF_Canuck





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Bedsprings wrote:
Ya, I just don't see them as a great country (globally), in that region they are great (thank you "imperialist" :roll: Britain for installing democracy and western values)

I think they're an emerging world power, but we'll see how that goes following the recession... either way, they are a valuable counter-balancing force and competing interest with China in Asia. We should try to support them when it makes sense for us to do so.
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think they're an emerging world power, but we'll see how that goes following the recession... either way, they are a valuable counter-balancing force and competing interest with China in Asia. We should try to support them when it makes sense for us to do so.

agreed
kwlafayette





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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is only one thing you can do; stop giving them your money.
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