[crazymamma]

[Craig]

[crazymamma]

Respectfully Craig you don't know what you are talking about.

Craig you talk like you have no idea what it is to be attacked by someone else, your irrational fears are not my barometer of what I should or should not be able to do to protect my self.

I am an Average looking female and I have been sexually assaulted twice TWICE for fuc*s sakes. One guy, a complete stranger, left the parking garage with half his face between my teeth and nails and his pecker shoved up his pelvic/abdominal region. I was LUCKY!!!!!!

The other glorious experience was when I went out on a first date, his hands were around my neck, continually applying pressure, in his car, half on top of me in the front seat, demanding servicing for the thrill of his paying for dinner. I was able to extricate myself from that situation also, but once again, no matter what my training, I know I was just LUCKY!`

I sometimes wonder about the other women that they came into contact with that were no so lucky or as well trained as I was in MA.

[Northern Ontario Tory]

crazymamma & Craig:

I'm not trying to be a shit-disturber or anything like that, but I think that both points of view have a certain legitimacy to them.

Just my opinion of course, but I think that a stronger justice system, one in which criminals and threats to our safety are actually appropriately punished (ie: locked up, deported, etc) would potentially address a lot of the concerns expressed. Our current hug-a-thug catch and release system does not make people feel safe and secure. That doesn't mean that they have to be locked up and turned into better criminals for the time they are released. Early release and parole should be contingent upon them upgrading their education, and obtaining job skills, instead of just "staying out of trouble" or talking to the appropriate social services people.

[ezbeatz]

[the silent platform]

my thoughts in an article i wrote last year:

"Guns don’t kill people, stupid liberal laws do"

When Marc Lépine entered École Polytechnique in 1989 with the intention of killing as many women as possible, he knew he would not face any resistance. In what would eventually be known as the Montreal massacre, he waltzed into the school, separated the males and the females, and shot 28 women — killing 14 of them.

continued @ http://www.themanitoban.com/20.....aws.do.php

[fkarcha]

Great article Mr. McCreary. I am often jealous of the Manitoban, it is a relatively balanced student paper compared to our own Uniter.

[crazymamma]

This Article is mostly about ineffective police response to school and mall killers but has some interesting comment:

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local.....7534a6de3c


"The other statistic that emerged from a study of active killers is that they almost exclusively seek out "gun free" zones for their attacks.In most states, concealed handguns are prohibited at schools and on college campuses even for those with permits.

Many malls and workplaces also place signs at their entrances prohibiting firearms on the premises.

Now tacticians believe the signs themselves may be an invitation to the active killers.

The psychological profile of a mass murderer indicates he is looking to inflict the most casualties as quickly as possible.

Also, the data show most active killers have no intention of surviving the event.

They may select schools and shopping malls because of the large number of defenseless victims and the virtual guarantee no on the scene one is armed.

As soon as they're confronted by any armed resistance, the shooters typically turn the gun on themselves."

Interestingly there were students who were killed at Virgina Tech who had guns locked in their cars. One prof that was a proficient shot, who managed to live thru a Nazi concentration camp was also murdered while his holster remained empty due to obeying a law of the free Gun zone that was Virginia tech. Pitiful waste of humanity.

[Mac]

[mr12387]

I kind of agree with Craig in terms of not trusting all the nut jobs out there.

However, I do like the idea of off duty, retired, and part-time law enforcement officers, so I voted for that. I feel like that option is much more likely to save lives than increase the loss of them.

[crazymamma]

[mr12387]

[Mac]

[Craig]

[Mac]