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cosmostein





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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Let the Liberal Leadership Speculation Begin! Reply with quote

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story.....ibles.html

1) Denis Coderre
2) Ruby Dhalla
3) Martha Hall Findlay
4) Michael Ignatieff
5) Gerard Kennedy
6) Dominic LeBlanc
7) Frank McKenna
8) John Manley
9) Bob Rae
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's go Buffalo Bob!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

1) Denis Coderre
2) Ruby Dhalla
3) Martha Hall Findlay
4) Michael Ignatieff
5) Gerard Kennedy
6) Dominic LeBlanc
7) Frank McKenna
Cool John Manley
9) Bob Rae


Based on personal experience with the individuals:

Dhalla - not enough depth. No way she comes across as a leader.

Coderre - may grab onto positions and never let them go. (You know, like Dion and the carbon tax)

LeBlanc - the Biden of Canadian politics. Loose mouth

That being said I sure wouldn't want to see Rae or Ignatieff. They are getting too used.

No way Kennedy or Findlay are going to take it.

Leaves Manley or McKenna
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of all the names, Rae is the one with the most back room, old boy, and corporate support. I really thought he had it last time, and there is no way he misses it a second time. Ignatieff will probably actually decide to sit this one out when push comes to shove.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the CBC never get tired of shilling for the Liberals?

-Mac
Hasdrubal





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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
Do the CBC never get tired of shilling for the Liberals?

-Mac

When they do they will shill for the NDP.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
Of all the names, Rae is the one with the most back room, old boy, and corporate support. I really thought he had it last time, and there is no way he misses it a second time. Ignatieff will probably actually decide to sit this one out when push comes to shove.


Neither Rae nor Ignatieff does a lot for me. Iggy is too cold and I think that he would not project well to voters.

I remember Rae's infamous Bill-40 and had the misfortune of meeting on several occasions with Rae's sleazoid Labour Minister Bob MacKenzie. And of course there is Rae's most famous legacy, Rae Days.

By political standards that was a long time ago. If Rae does become leader it will be incumbent on us all to remind people of Rae's "achievements" when he led a government.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I cannot throw my support behind Joe Volpe, I guess Bob Rae would be my first choice :)
hatrock





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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enter Brian Tobin.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Let the Liberal Leadership Speculation Begin! Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/10/20/f-liberal-possibles.html

1) Denis Coderre
2) Ruby Dhalla
3) Martha Hall Findlay
4) Michael Ignatieff
5) Gerard Kennedy
6) Dominic LeBlanc
7) Frank McKenna
8) John Manley
9) Bob Rae


Out of that list, the only two who could potentially give Harper problems is Ignatieff (with his charisma) and Rae (experienced and disciplined, despite doing a lacklustre job as Premier). I seriously don't see anyone here who could outperform Harper.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I think she has the slightest chance of winning (just not enough of a internal party support base), but Findlay would actually worry me a bit. She's intelligent, sharp, a good speaker, calm under pressure, and photogenic. And she could benefit from a lot of female voters who would like to elect a female Prime Minister for the first time in Canadian history, and remove the sour taste of Kim Campbell.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Let the Liberal Leadership Speculation Begin! Reply with quote

Canuckstubby67 wrote:
cosmostein wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/10/20/f-liberal-possibles.html

1) Denis Coderre
2) Ruby Dhalla
3) Martha Hall Findlay
4) Michael Ignatieff
5) Gerard Kennedy
6) Dominic LeBlanc
7) Frank McKenna
8) John Manley
9) Bob Rae


Out of that list, the only two who could potentially give Harper problems is Ignatieff (with his charisma) and Rae (experienced and disciplined, despite doing a lacklustre job as Premier). I seriously don't see anyone here who could outperform Harper.


Everyone says that Iggy has charisma, but I canít really find it. Talking by moving your hands does not count as being charismatic. He is too professor like Dion, except he can speak the language of the majority.

I do agree however that he could give Harper a run for his money because he has a lot of friends in high places.

I personally hope Rae win, because he can attack him on his political achievement as premier of Ontario and can attack him on his supporters who go back to the Trudeau days with his brother.

The only problem with Rae is that he is a excellent campaigner, and Harper three times now has tripped himself in campaigns.
TorontoCon





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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iggy is not charasmatic.

He comes off as SMUG!

Charisma draws people IN, not away.
hatrock





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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeBlanc supports Kennedy on second ballot and Kennedy shoots between Iggy and Rae as yet another compromise candidate.
hatrock





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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hatrock wrote:
LeBlanc supports Kennedy on second ballot and Kennedy shoots between Iggy and Rae as yet another compromise candidate.


Revised:

If no one else enters, LeBlanc supports Iggy on second ballot.
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