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theatheistjew





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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Sweden To Ban Teaching Religious Doctrines in FBSs Reply with quote

http://commentisfree.guardian......truth.html

It is a way to combat Islam. Even the Christian Democratic Party is OK with the ban.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a big fan of bans, as a general rule, but this one almost makes sense. Save teaching religion for home & church. The only downside is atheists will treat it as some kind of victory for their non-religion.

-Mac
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
I'm not a big fan of bans, as a general rule, but this one almost makes sense. Save teaching religion for home & church. The only downside is atheists will treat it as some kind of victory for their non-religion.

-Mac

Who cares what atheists think :D

Besides, the majority of Swedes are atheist or agnostic to begin with.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theatheistjew wrote:
Who cares what atheists think :D

Besides, the majority of Swedes are atheist or agnostic to begin with.

God? :wink:

That makes it all the easier for the Swedes to enforce this ban, doesn't it?

-Mac
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk about an Atheist majority hurting the theist minority.

Only Muslims are causing trouble in Europe, so why should all religions suffer?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westmanguy wrote:
Talk about an Atheist majority hurting the theist minority.

Only Muslims are causing trouble in Europe, so why should all religions suffer?

It is two fold, the higher ups do not want creation taught in any school, but you can't make a law that only goes against Muslims. Try doing that in Canada or any other Western nation.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
theatheistjew wrote:
Who cares what atheists think :D

Besides, the majority of Swedes are atheist or agnostic to begin with.

God? :wink:

That makes it all the easier for the Swedes to enforce this ban, doesn't it?

-Mac

I'm in tight with God in my cartoon strip (I'm Bacon btw)
http://www.stripcreator.com/co.....ter/322911
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats next, a code of conduct for churches?

This is bordering a dangerous line against freedom of religion and beliefs.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westmanguy wrote:
Whats next, a code of conduct for churches?

This is bordering a dangerous line against freedom of religion and beliefs.

Not really. Parents send their kids to school because they are not qualified to teach their kids. They send them to doctors who are qualified as well.
You are still free to believe whatever you want and follow any religion you want.

And another argument is that a Muslim can argue what you are arguing, where the Islamic school could be teaching that Muslims should take over the world, and that the West must be defeated, and everyone should convert to Islam or die.

If that is freedom, let me off.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theatheistjew wrote:
I'm in tight with God in my cartoon strip (I'm Bacon btw)
http://www.stripcreator.com/co.....ter/322911

You know, I think I would have figured out who Bacon was without prompting but perhaps some others aren't as perceptive as I? :lol:

-Mac
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, one has to ask what the heck is the point if faith based schools if you can't teach your faith?

-Ruth
PS: That legislation still has to be voted on I think.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't get it. I am an Atheist myself but why should Christians and Jews be affected because of muslims?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Parents send their kids to school because they are not qualified to teach their kids. They send them to doctors who are qualified as well


I just wondering if Parents are qualified to teach religion it seems to me most parents might have a limited understanding of their own faith. Childeren not getting the full understanding of thier faiths can lead potentially cause many of the problems we see today with religon. Has anyone else expierence this as well?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

triple M wrote:
I just wondering if Parents are qualified to teach religion it seems to me most parents might have a limited understanding of their own faith. Childeren not getting the full understanding of thier faiths can lead potentially cause many of the problems we see today with religon. Has anyone else expierence this as well?


The problem you are referring to comes not from parents who are unqualified to teach, but from parents who simply don't teach. With regards to Christianity, the Bible is clear that parents are to instruct their children in the ways of God. Many don't. Many parents do not spend enough time in the Word themselves, and as a result they simply are unable to fulfill their calling.

-Ruth
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruth wrote:
So, one has to ask what the heck is the point if faith based schools if you can't teach your faith?

-Ruth

One can answer very easily. A great deal of what teachers give to students is not on the curriculum. As adults in a position of influence over their students, teachers provide an ongoing example of adult behaviour which students learn and sometimes emulate. Would you rather have your kids taught by teachers who exemplify Christian attitudes or teachers who exemplify socialism & political correctness?

-Mac
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