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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Ontario Election: Tory promises free vote on faith-based fun Reply with quote

"Ontario Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory is promising a free vote in the legislature on his controversial proposal to publicly fund faith-based private schools.

Tory, whose election campaign has been slowed considerably by the widely unpopular plan, made the promise to sustained applause during a luncheon speech Monday to business leaders in Toronto.

"In this significant way, the public can be more involved in the decision-making," Tory said.

"They have expressed strong concerns and I have heard them."


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ontar.....nding.html
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that the election in Ontario isn't big news, but dod there really have to be so many posts on it?

One of the nearly identical candidates will win, the other will lose. Either way, McGuinty or Tory, there will be no perceptible changes in Ontario.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have placed this in the Ontario Election post but I figured this was fairly big news and was worthy of its own post.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. This reversal is huge. Now I'm going to have to take an even closer look at the Conservative platform and more than likely vote Conservative to get McGuinty and his wasteful spending crew OUT!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TorontoCon wrote:
Agreed. This reversal is huge. Now I'm going to have to take an even closer look at the Conservative platform and more than likely vote Conservative to get McGuinty and his wasteful spending crew OUT!


I like the concept that it will allow the voter to speak to their MPP about how to vote,

But I have to wonder how will the UN issue be resolved?

Private School Tax Credits?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how the beef eating atheist jew is voting now?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He does not seem like the sort who is willing to change his mind. I would guess that he is still voting for McGuinty, and there is probably not a lot that would sway him from that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
Either way, McGuinty or Tory, there will be no perceptible changes in Ontario.


Sadly, this is probably true.
It really sucks that Tory is the leader of the PC's

--Ruth
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that is what you can expect with brokerage parties in general. Instead of trying to find a leader with the best ideas, the Ontario PCs were asking questions like who is the most photogenic, who will least offend, who can get elected. And now they have the leader that they deserve. It actually looks a lot like the problems the federal Liberals have with Dion.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westmanguy wrote:
I wonder how the beef eating atheist jew is voting now?


I'm not sure now. There is another issues in my riding that is important at this time. But I'm more open to vote Tory, though, honestly I probably won't because even though by turning this into a free vote, he has already stated that his stance hasn't changed. Can I trust him? I don't like the fact that he is still pursuing a vote on this. It shows me he doesn't understand the repercussions and the Western ideals of separation of church and state that are important to me more than anything else in politics.
If he sincerely wanted to do what the people want through a vote he would have a referendum on full faith funding, just catholic school funding and no faith funding at all.
60% wins, and all else mean the status quo stands.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was looking like a Lib majority.

Tory blinked and we will now get the result we most fear. A Liberal minority with the dippers holding the balance. That should be good for 5-10 billion more in spending!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsocko wrote:
It was looking like a Lib majority.

Tory blinked and we will now get the result we most fear. A Liberal minority with the dippers holding the balance. That should be good for 5-10 billion more in spending!


I'm watching him on Palkin right now. His stance sickens me, it really does. I think that the Libs win in a landslide.

I don't even want faith based education looked at, unless he has a free vote to get rid of Catholic funding too.

His talk of "fairness" and dealing with the manner is totally dishonest.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't even want faith based education looked at, unless he has a free vote to get rid of Catholic funding too.


Every Catholic I've talked has no problem with getting rid of Seperate schools. Does anyone have a perspective on this as a Catholic.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best...
Decision...
Ever...

excellent political move :)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get how this is further segregation or breaking the separating of church and state.

Its bringing the other faith-based schools into the public umbrella and bring common education standards to many more Ontarians ....isn't that UNITY? INTEGRATION?
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