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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruth wrote:
Actually, there are a lot of common things that we can't prove how they work. We can only show that they do and theorize about the how.

That's my point, Ruth. We can collect all kinds of evidence but, in the end, we don't know the actual mechanism yet we depend on these forces daily.

Perhaps someday humans will understand the actual mechanisms of the daily forces which surround us. In the meantime, I'm just glad I don't have to worry about flying off the planet and my computer still works.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, I'll explain the atheist position. I have already said that I can't disprove God. What I am saying is that there is no evidence God exists. Kapish?
There is evidence for evolution, gravity, etc., but none for God. It is all in your heads people. That is what they call faith. Trying to give our lives some special meaning and trying to not face the facts that this is it.
If the Big Bang needed God to start it, what started God? A God that has been silent for over 13 billion years.
I am not posting here because of superiority or to change the minds of the reality deniers (those who don't believe in human evolution for example). I post for the lurkers.
I do the same when I post pro-Israel information. I'm out to unbrainwash the young and also anyone on the fence. And I do a great job of it.
I've turned many an atheist into an Israeli supporter. Atheists tend to be very liberal and can't identify who the real victim is many times.
I deal in reality. Evidence is important to me. A supernatural event could sway me, but I have yet to know one that is true. Our minds are powerful when it comes to inventing the supernatural. We are naturally superstitious for example. But we evolved this feature in early man as a way to make sense of things we couldn't understand...it helped us cope and survive which is what evolution is all about.
The Exodus never happened. Great documentary on the history of Jews: The Bible Unearthed.

Jesus most likely was an invention of Paul:

http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm (this is the best link, real history, fascinating stuff)


http://www.infidels.org/librar....._jesus.htm l





My Youtube Videos which explain where I am coming from:


Don't forget to rate them 5's. I like to enlighten, but I also like 5 out of 5's.

Faith should be taught at home and places of worship. It has no business in the school system.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt wrote:
Methinks this topic went well beyond the scope of John Tory's proposal several pages ago and should likely be closed in favour of a similar discussion outside of Canadian Politics. But that's just me.

Good call...

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