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Should the senate be reformed?
No, keep the status quo.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Abolish the senate.
10%
 10%  [ 3 ]
Elected with 6 year terms.
42%
 42%  [ 12 ]
Elected with 7 year terms.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Elected with 8 year terms.
35%
 35%  [ 10 ]
Elected with 9 year terms.
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
Not elected, but other reform.
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
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kwlafayette





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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I hear, there are a lot of Senators who do really good work. The good thing about appointing Senators, is if you want a constitutional expert you can pick one. The bad part is that you can pick your friends.

I have heard that sone of the Senate committees turn out top notch reports, so I definitely believe that the Senate has a place in Canada.
Craig
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
I have heard that sone of the Senate committees turn out top notch reports


At the VERY least. And I mean the VERY VERY least. We should impose strict attendance requirements and performance requirements on them. If they don't show up for 80% of sessions then you are fired!

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The good thing about appointing Senators, is if you want a constitutional expert you can pick one


If you need a constitutional expert you can hire them on a contract basis to consult. They don't have to be senators to be useful to the government.
biggie





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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Albertan born & Raised, but currently residing in Ottawa. I was a Reformer, and now a conservative. I support Elected Senate - my preference would be 6 years, although any term less than 10 years is fine in my books. I think this nonsense of appointing senators is clogging our political system. In many ways, I feel that the senate is a useless organization. I do see use for it, however. The idea that it provides a "sober second thought" would be a great deal more accurate were there to be elected members, as opposed to appointed lobbyists and government friends.

The Accountability Act is a perfect example of Senate blocking legislation that our elected house (the voice of Canadians) has agreed with. I mean, talk about classic big-business running our country. Why have a senate that is dominated by one side of the spectrum?

What it amounts to is a waste of time, and it slows the abilities of government to pass legislation that Canadians Demand.

Not to mention - I'm certain many of those senators would actually show up from time to time were they held accountable for their actions.
logau





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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say must be elected

or

Keep the Senate - but put up with them as they are best described below - written as I watched the masses stream into the Casino in Hull Quebec on Friday night past. Some famous faces were in the crowd I might add!


The Senator - A Man of the People?

He was wearin` his best pair of loafers
A lifetime as a government gofer
He wheezes and laughs at his political gaffes
A Senators Life for Me!

His back is all creaky
His date is all freaky
Your language no speekee
A Senators Life for Me!

You paid for his car and his haircut
His loud shirt is screaming
No schoolin for him, he's never been slim
The look in his eyes says he's dreaming
A Senators Life for Me!

His driver is waiting all night
His boss gets into a fight
The cops they arrive, like bees in the hive
A Senators life for me!

The papers report a minor affair of honour
A brutish guy was upon her
He pulled them apart, not very smart
She broke her fist on his jaw
A Senators life for me!

Now you're buying him dentures
He gets abuse by back benchers
But the joke is on them
He aint one of them
It is a Senators life for meeeeeeee!:D
gebhartj





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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One feature that I think would be essential in an elected Senate, I think, would be disparate election dates for Senators.

How about this for an option:

Each Province's Senators get divided in half. For example, presuming we keep the current distribution (another topic for another time!), Saskatchewan's senators would be divided into two groups of 3.

The next provincial election, all 6 Senators would be elected. The three with the most votes would receive a "full term", the next 3 would receive a half-term (now this could be done by district too, with each district having 2 Senators).

The next provincial election in Sask, the three half-term senators would be up for re-election, the other 3 would stay in office. Thereafter, the seats would be up every other provincial election.

This would provide for an, approximately, 8 year term (depending on the timing of provincial elections), and would ensure that there would always be a healthy mix of new blood and grizzled veterans in the Senate.
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