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mbennett





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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: China forces women to get abortions Reply with quote

In effort to enforce their "one child per family" law, the communists in china are forcing women to undergo abortions.

I am Pro-life so obviously this is just sick.
But even if you are pro-choice this also is just horrible as its denying women even the choice to have an abortion!

Its scary that china may be the next world super power.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this has been going on since the late 1970's.
I agree it is sick. China is slowing their population growth but at this cost.
The numbers of females aborted are much higher than males. :?

There are too many people on this world but this isnt the way to solve the problem.

On another note India will soon have more people than china, largely because of the 1 child policy.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 Chinese child = government handouts designed to give the child a bright future
2 Chinese Children = benefits cut off
3 or more = government disciplinary action
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China has been doing this for decades. India uses selective abortion to rid themselves of girls. And the rich Hollywood elitists and all other good liberals get skin treatments using the aborted fetuses as a base for the product they use. Abortion is the communion of the liberal. Drink the blood of the innocents...
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And the rich Hollywood elitists and all other good liberals get skin treatments using the aborted fetuses as a base for the product they use. Abortion is the communion of the liberal. Drink the blood of the innocents...

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, it will be happening here soon enough. It won't be because you have too many children though, it will be because of birth defects, of the parents are religious, or some other such reason. People already say that the government should license parents, how much longer till the argument "that child will be a burden on society, so they should not be born", is heard here in the West?

Eventually, everything old becomes new again. In my opinion, the neo-Eugenicists are already in much favor. Think about the last time you heard that argument "crime is down because of abortion".
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eugenics deals with biology. It has gotten a bad rap because of the Nazis and the fact that it was used in a totally subjective manner. Because we rely on cultural selection not natural selection there are huge problems with eugenics (ie I would rather have Hawking over 20 very physically fit people) BUT it can not be denied that in every generation human genetic fitness declines overall; in the most part because of technology.
IF crime is down due to abortion this would be because of social issues (ie the poor and those who likely would have kids grow up to be criminals have abortions) not genetic ones.
This does not mean abortion is a good or a bad thing, it is simply a possible byproduct.

Canada will never pass a law limiting children. In truth the reason people in Canada do not have enough children to keep the population stable is that children cost too much.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds grotesque but.... ? 1.3 billion people in one country and 200 million abroad? The Chinese have to do something to curtail reproduction. They have 100 cities with 1 million residents or more.

So what does China do? The Chinese outnumber the population of Europe and North America combined. That should say something.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is the total human population x energy consumption x waste.
Really what race someone is shouldnt matter.
So what if there are more Chinese people than Indian people and there are more Indians than whites.
Really race is not the issue, over population and over consumption are.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dispite all the praise China is getting for being an emerging superpower and major trading partner, we still have to realize that their government is a commie one...nothing good ever came out of communism...this is just further proof of that...

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
The problem is the total human population x energy consumption x waste.
Really what race someone is shouldnt matter.
So what if there are more Chinese people than Indian people and there are more Indians than whites.
Really race is not the issue, over population and over consumption are.


Nature takes care of that. Read up on the flu epidemic of the early 20th century. The coming bird flu or another type of plague will wipe out millions soon enough. All of Europe and some parts of Asia are far below replacement levels. Another world war is inevitable, eliminating millions more. Slaughtering our children in the name of population control is insanity. As far as consumption goes, we are a long way from over taxing the earth's resources. But it does point to a definite time when the earth will no longer be able to maintain its population. An interesting thought considering the rest of the universe exhibits the same. We see stars die all the time, but no one has ever seen one form, nor is there any true understanding of how they do. God has determined the times and seasons...
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
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And the rich Hollywood elitists and all other good liberals get skin treatments using the aborted fetuses as a base for the product they use. Abortion is the communion of the liberal. Drink the blood of the innocents...

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You didn't realize they were doing this? They go to Asian countries to get skin treatments made from aborted fetuses. It is the new rage among the ultra rich...
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