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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:46 am    Post subject: Sweden turns to the right ... Reply with quote

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Sweden election latest: Eurosceptics vow to ‘TAKE DOWN’ leader after gaining huge ground
THE Sweden election results have led to an opposition party to threaten to oust Prime Minister Stefan Lofven as the nation is left in political deadlock.
By MATT DRAKE

The eurosceptic Sweden Democrats said they would “take down” any formed government which does not allow it to have influence, after stealing a large percentage of votes from the two main parties.

And Mr Lofven must fight off pressure in a vote on his future, set to be held in two weeks if he does not step down before.

Sweden faces lengthy coalition talks to form a government, which is made all the harder by both major political alliances on the centre right and centre left freezing out the eurosceptic Sweden Democrats.

Sunday’s election produced a near dead-heat between the ruling centre-left bloc, which includes previous leaders the Social Democrats, Green and Left parties on 40.6 percent of the vote and the opposition centre-right, which includes the Moderates, on 40.4 per cent.

The centre-right alliance, which includes the Moderates, Centre Party, Liberals and Christian Democrats is in turmoil on how to deal with the anti-immigration Sweden Democrats.

Two of the four centre-right parties yesterday turned down an offer of coalition talks from the Sweden Democrats.

Leader of the Sweden Democrats, Jimmie Akesson, said: “We won't participate in letting through a government which doesn't give us influence. [....]
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1016005/sweden-election-latest-stefan-lofven-sweden-democrats-jimmie-akesson


This is because of the large Moslem immigration that Sweden allowed before Merkel has come back to bite the government. Sweden was ,previously famous for its tolerance and liberalism. In a way, it's what the state planners have wanted to turn us into. Not a bad model, but crashed now on the shoals of multiculturalism!

Moslem immigration turns the population to populism because the elites are so out of touch with what they impose on their people. Just like Canada!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The coalition building is going to prove interesting;

Kristersson's Alliance as it sits is 33 seats shy whereas Löfven is 32 seats shy all with Åkesson sitting at 63 seats.

Assuming that neither lead party will work with Åkesson you find a very challenging path to governance.

Even if Löfven is able to swing the Centre Party into the fold away from the Alliance he is still 3 seats short.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is far away, and peole in Canada can look at it dispassionately.

Sweden, one of the most homogeneous populations on earth, suddenly decided to take 160,000 refugees from -- perhaps Libya? It was before Merkel made a similar move. But Sweden is not a big country -- about 7 million of them. 160,000 refugees is a lot.

The reaction is rapidly rising crime rates, especially sex crimes. Sweden is probably the one place on earth worse than Canada when it comes to sex laws. The new immigrants don't seem to be assimilating to Swedish ways. Who knows the truth? ... like here, news of these negative impacts was suppressed.

This is the electoral reaction. I don't think the country has lurched 'to the right' so much as it is looking for new leadership that will find a more realistic accommodation to an immigration problem.

As I see it from afar, immigration is what is fueling the fire (as far as the Euroskeptics are concerned) of populist politics and the breakup of the EU. In our time, there are a number of 'sacred cows' in politics that official politicians of all parties won't talk about.

The candidates that talk about these concerns in a way that is not racist will have people rally to them very quickly. Immigration is only the most legitimate (at the moment) of these topics.

It isn't the politics of the EU, bad as they might be, that energizes people. The policy that has the biggest negative impact on everyday lives is immigration. The push-back goes back to Pym Fortuyn's quick rise in Holland. In our time, people who feel unrepresented are getting behind rebels or outsiders who speak to the new issues in a different rhetoric. It's a pattern, probably the outcome of ''the system' silo-ing chunks of the public off and ignoring them.

You like the statecraft and the diplomacy of leadership. That certainly has its place, but so too does the policy decisions a political leadership makes. The thing about immigration is that when it changes existing social patterns, it creates a reaction. You can count on that, particularly in places where the patterns are old and entrenched.
When it gets to a certain level -- where it elects people to the legislature, for example -- it has to be addressed or a process of escalating violence is apt to begin between the two groups. And the government will be powerless to stop it.

It will also start a political movement amongst those whose views are frozen out. The analysts will call that 'populism' and 'right wing' and bring up images of Nazi Rallies. But it won't change the lived reality so the popular opposition will grow.

Draw your own conclusions about Canada. We have a budding refugee problem nobody wants to talk about. That's how it starts.
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