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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like father, like daughter? Brian Mulroney says parliamentary experience not necessary


Antonella Artuso

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March 6, 2018


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It’s “goofy” to suggest Caroline Mulroney needs parliamentary experience to do a good job as the next leader of the Ontario Progressive Conservatives, her dad says.

Former prime minister Brian Mulroney noted that like his daughter, he was equipped with only private sector experience and vision when he went up against, and defeated, candidates who had previously held political office.

“Guess what experience has gotten you at Queen’s Park?” Mulroney said. “The premier has been around for 15 years. The deficit has tripled. Your debt is over $300 billion. Service of the debt is the third largest item on your budget.

“This is what political experience has gotten you – time for something new, something new and something fresh,” Mulroney said, echoing his daughter’s leadership campaign slogan.

The former prime minister was speaking in the provincial riding of Ajax Monday in support of local PC candidate and former Postmedia chair Rod Phillips, who he said would bring strong business and civic experience to the role of MPP.


Mulroney bemoaned what he described as Ontario’s descent under the Liberal government from a province that was once the “happy giant of Confederation” to one that now relies on other provinces like Newfoundland for equalization payments.

While all the PC leadership candidates have said that Ontario is in poor fiscal shape, opponents Christine Elliott and Doug Ford have made a lot of their experience in public office as an antidote, in contrast to Caroline Mulroney’s recent arrival from the field of investment banking.

“That’s goofy stuff,” Mulroney’s dad said. “I had no political experience and look what happened. I won the two largest back-to-back majorities since Sir. John A. MacDonald …. You need vision and courage and brains — and she’s got all of that.”

Ontario PC Party members are currently voting for the next leader of the party, scheduled to be announced Saturday


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug Ford raises abortion issue in effort to woo social conservatives: expert



Paola Loriggio, The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:00AM EST
Last Updated Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:05AM EST


TORONTO -- One of the four candidates competing to lead Ontario's Opposition raised questions about access to abortion this week, resurrecting a political hot potato while stopping short of promising to reopen debate on the issue.

Doug Ford's statements that he would not personally revive the abortion debate but would allow those in his caucus to bring forward legislation on any matter important to them appears to be a "Hail Mary" move aimed at wooing the party's socially conservative members as the leadership race comes to a close this weekend, a political analyst said.

"This is a top-down leader and for him, on this issue, to be signalling that, hey, it's ok by him for any of his caucus members to be where they want to be on the map on this one tells me that this is a retail politics vote-getting move, pure and simple," said Myer Siemiatycki, a professor of politics at Toronto's Ryerson University.


Doug Ford during a leadership debate in Ottawa
Ontario PC leadership candidate Doug Ford speaks in a debate in Ottawa on Feb. 28, 2018. (Justin Tang / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

"If he really believed it, he would say this is what he's going to deliver, and the fact that he's not prepared to say that says to me it's about appealing to a base and portion of the (Progressive) Conservative party that nobody else has, on this issue, spoken to."

In interviews with various media outlets this week, Ford suggested that as party leader he would welcome having members of his caucus table legislation that would require parental permission for abortions sought by minors.

He clarified his position Tuesday, saying that while he personally believes in "the sanctity of life," he would follow in the footsteps of the federal Conservatives by not rekindling debate on the issue.

"That being said, I will allow MPPs to draft, bring forward, and debate any legislation that is important to them," Ford said in a statement.

"The Liberals have set a dangerous and narrow-minded precedent both federally and provincially. I will never put members of my party in a position where they will have to compromise or deny their personal beliefs. I will never muzzle members of our caucus."

While the right for patients to give or refuse consent is laid out in law, there are currently no provisions regarding parental notification, according to Ontario's medical regulator.

Physicians must determine whether a patient has the capacity to give informed consent regardless of age, according to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario. If the patient cannot consent, then the physician must seek out a substitute decision-maker.

"A minor patient is either capable of providing informed consent to treatment or they are not," said spokeswoman Kathryn Clarke. "The usual obligation that physicians have to maintain patient confidentiality exists for minor patients who are capable of providing informed consent to treatment."

The issue seemed to divide Ford's rivals for the leadership, with only one -- parental rights activist Tanya Granic Allen -- saying she believes parents should be directly involved and consulted about any medical treatment proposed for their child.

"She has never discussed legislation, she just believes strongly that parents are responsible for the best interest of their children and patient-doctor confidentiality should not permit a doctor to treat a child outside the knowledge of their parent," said spokesman Mike Patton.

Former Tory legislator Christine Elliott said she wouldn't prevent party members from voting in line with their beliefs, even if they clash with hers.

"I do not support any restrictions on abortion access, but would support a free vote by party members on any issues involving matters of conscience," she said.

Caroline Mulroney's camp said the Toronto lawyer and businesswoman has been clear she has no interest in revisiting the controversial issue.

"While she respects the broad range of opinions on this issue, she would not restrict a woman's access, or criminalize her right to choose. She won't reopen this debate," said spokeswoman Melissa Lantsman.

Premier Kathleen Wynne, meanwhile, said she wouldn't wade into the Tory leadership debate but said her government's position on the abortion issue has been longstanding.

"We support a woman's right to choose and that been our position for a long time," she said. "That will not change."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/doug-ford-raises-abortion-issue-in-effort-to-woo-social-conservatives-expert-1.3832209
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( deadline has been extended but only 40,000 have voted far less than the 100,000 plus members )


Registration for PC party leadership extended until Thursday 8 p.m.

Ontario PC party leadership candidates
Ontario Conservative party leadership candidates Tanya Granic Allen, left to right, Christine Elliott, Doug Ford and Caroline Mulroney pose for a photo in TVO studios in Toronto on Thursday, February 15, 2018 following a televised debate. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chris Young



The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, March 7, 2018 6:16PM EST



TORONTO -- The deadline for those wanting to vote in the Ontario Progressive Conservative leadership race is being extended by a day.

Registration was to end Wednesday night, but the chair of the leadership organizing committee tweeted Wednesday afternoon that the deadline was extended to 8 p.m. on Thursday.

Hartley Lefton says the verification process is being extended due to a "continued stream" of members seeking verification PINs.


Lefton says as of mid-afternoon Wednesday more than 40,000 party members had cast ballots in the leadership race to replace Patrick Brown, who abruptly resigned as leader in late January amid sexual misconduct allegations.

Four candidates are in the race for the party leadership -- former provincial legislator Christine Elliott, former Toronto city councillor Doug Ford, Toronto lawyer and business woman Caroline Mulroney and social conservative advocate Tanya Granic Allen.

Voting is to end at noon on Friday and the results of the leadership contest are still slated to be revealed Saturday.

The winner is whoever receives more than half the total electoral votes. If no one crosses that threshold on the first round, whoever has the fewest votes or less than 10 per cent gets eliminated and those votes get redistributed to whoever was marked as the second choice. This continues until a winner emerges.


https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/registration-for-pc-party-leadership-extended-until-thursday-8-p-m-1.3833349
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, somehow this is slipping past our notice ...

Quote:
Ontario PC leadership vote opens amid concerns over online process
JUSTIN GIOVANNETTI
PUBLISHED MARCH 1, 2018

Ontario's Progressive Conservatives will begin casting their ballots for a new leader on Friday in an online process some candidates are challenging over worries the outcome will be tainted by false memberships and vote-rigging.

The campaigns of former Toronto city councillor Doug Ford and political newcomer Caroline Mulroney have flagged concerns with the team running the PC Party's leadership contest, saying a number of fraudulent memberships could have been purchased in recent weeks with prepaid credit cards. They also say a number of party members are still waiting to receive the paperwork they need to register to vote.

Mr. Ford's campaign is asking the party to ditch its online-voting process and revert to using paper ballots owing to the complications, his spokeswoman told the Globe and Mail on Thursday. The party has admitted some people have yet to receive the unique PIN sent in the mail to each of the party's members. The number is needed to register online and cast a ballot after voting starts on Friday morning.

"We're hearing from thousands of people who have not received their PIN in the mail yet," said Lyndsey Vanstone, Mr. Ford's spokeswoman. "Because of the extreme issues with this process, we want to see the party go to paper ballots and have a regular old-fashioned vote."
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ontario-pc-leadership-vote-opens-amid-concerns-over-online-process/article38176582/


Another comment ...

Quote:
Former MPP says botched online voting system could spell disaster for Ontario PC leadership election
Some letters in secret codes mailed to party members for electronic voting appear to be numbers, breeding confusion, says Frank Klees, a former cabinet minister

As if the Ontario Conservatives needed another controversy, a former Tory cabinet minister says glitches with the online voting system for the party’s leadership race could spell disaster, leaving thousands unable to cast a ballot.

Frank Klees, a longtime member of provincial parliament who is backing businessman Doug Ford for leader, said Friday that if the problems are not fixed by the time voting starts March 2, the entire party executive should resign.

Klees told the National Post he was unable to register to vote online using the secret code sent to him in the mail, and then was told by a party employee that a printing anomaly meant Os appeared as zeroes, Zs as twos and Is as ones. [....]
http://nationalpost.com/news/f.....p-election


There's every reason to suspect this system of voting, and the need for it in the first place.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( another new poll shows the pc's way ahead and liberals in 3 rd )


Poll shows meltdown and Wynne’s Liberals

March 7, 2018 Brian Lilley Ontario Politics 0
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Kathleen Wynne is taking the Liberals down? Say it ain’t so.

Look, we’ve known for a while that Wynne is the least popular premier in Ontario but what makes this latest poll from DART Insight, backed by my old friend John Wright, so interesting, is that the full extent of the fall of Ontario’s Liberals is laid bare. Even in Toronto.

From the top line numbers.


The results were gathered during the meltdown of former PC leader Patrick Brown’s attempt
to regain his post and suggest that even in the midst of the campaign cacophony, when given
a choice as to who should govern Ontario, voters still preferred the Ontario PC’s (44%) to do
so versus the Ontario New Democratic Party (24%), the Ontario Liberal Party (19%) or
another party of their choice (“Other” 13%). Ontario voters go to the polls on June 7, 2018

So in the middle of Patrick Brown’s on again, off again leadership run, in the midst of the chaos that is the Ontario PC leadership race, the people of Ontario overwhelming say they would rather have the disorganized PCs run the province than Wynne’s Liberals.

I’m sure it’s just sexism or something. Watch for an explanation in The Red Star, I mean Toronto Star, soon.

But as I said, this poll shows that the rot in Ontario Liberal support is deep. DART’s regional numbers show that even in the core of Toronto the Liberals are in third at 22% support behind the NDP at 31% and the PCs at 36%. That is in downtown Toronto.

In the rest of the province the PCs lead in most regions with a high of 53% support in the GTA 905 region to 41% support in Southwestern Ontario. Northern Ontario is the outlier with the NDP leading there with 40% support, the PCs at 27% and the Liberals at 14%.

What all of these numbers say is that if an election were held now, or if these numbers hold, the Liberals are looking at a third place finish, watching the NDP pass them to go on to official opposition status and a sizable PC majority come June 7.

http://brianlilley.com/poll-sh.....-liberals/
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ontario PC Leadership Committee <leadership@ontariopc.com>


Yesterday, 11:29 PM



Ontario PC


Dear Members,

When the Leadership election process of the PC Party of Ontario was launched, we knew that we were in uncharted waters. In 44 days, we had to design and implement a voting process that was unprecedented in Ontario history, and likely even Canadian history.

Working with a dedicated team of volunteers and staff, we built an election system to be proud of. While there were challenges with our mail delivery, and some members were unable to participate fully in this election, the metrics are very strong: nearly 70,000 members have verified their membership already, and well over 44,000 have already voted. More members will have voted in this leadership than voted in the 2002 Leadership, when the PC Party of Ontario was in government.

We are aware of calls from some candidates for an extension to the race. This is, in our view, not only a fundamental change in the Rules at a late time in the campaign, but also contrary to our Party’s Constitution, which provides that in this case the vote must conclude no later than March 9.

Accordingly, we confirm that the deadline for verification of memberships is 8pm on Thursday March 8 and the deadline for voting is noon on Friday March 9. The new Leader of the PC Party of Ontario will be announced on March 10 in Markham.

This has been a very exciting election process of which PC Party of Ontario members can be proud. We have learned a lot through this process and will work to ensure that the challenges Party members faced in this Leadership Election will not occur again.

After March 10, we look forward to joining with PC Party members and supporters from across Ontario to elect a new government on June 7.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voting was an ordeal but not unreasonable;

I received my verification code on Wednesday;
Used it to upload valid ID that same day

Received my Voter ID today which was used to secure my PIN
Which in turn both of which were used to cast my ballot.

All things considered I would have rather just driven somewhere to vote.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RCO wrote:
( another new poll shows the pc's way ahead and liberals in 3 rd )

Poll shows meltdown and Wynne’s Liberals

March 7, 2018 Brian Lilley Ontario Politics 0
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    
Kathleen Wynne is taking the Liberals down? Say it ain’t so.

Look, we’ve known for a while that Wynne is the least popular premier in Ontario but what makes this latest poll from DART Insight, backed by my old friend John Wright, so interesting, is that the full extent of the fall of Ontario’s Liberals is laid bare. Even in Toronto.

http://brianlilley.com/poll-sh.....-liberals/


The data from the poll is here;
http://dartincom.ca/wp-content.....7-2018.pdf

The first thing we should prepare for is the likely retraction of the PC number after a leader is selected. Right now the PCs are all things to all people and on Saturday when the party gets a leader its likely the numbers will pull back a bit.

With that said;
The DART number has 13% in the "Other" camp which is rather high, I also don't see the OLP in third in Toronto by nearly 10%

However, many of the other regions seem largely in line.
The expectation is the OLP would likely be wiped out of Northern Ontario with the NDP adding the majority of those seats and the PCs likely one.

The PCs all appear to be well position from the border of Burlington and Hamilton all the way to the end of Etobicoke on the West side which could be devastating for the Liberals.

They just need to keep the pressure on.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So....

Who did we vote for?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( updated figures are now saying over 50,000 have voted , but still much less than 100,000 plus figures we've heard about possible numbers of pc members )



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More than 50,000 members have already cast a ballot to vote for our next leader! That’s more than in 2002, when our members selected Ontario’s Premier #onpoli #PCPOLdr
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We’ll wait and see’: Ford toys with contesting PC leadership result

By Marieke Walsh. Published on Mar 9, 2018 5:00am


Ontario PC Party Leadership Candidate Doug Ford takes part in the Ontario PC Party Leadership debate in Ottawa on Wednesday, February 28, 2018. iPolitics/Matthew Usherwood



Two Progressive Conservative leadership candidates are refusing to rule out a challenge to Saturday’s vote result.

In interviews with iPolitics, neither Doug Ford nor Tanya Granic Allen would take contesting the result off the table.

“We’ll wait and see,” Ford said Thursday evening.

Their hesitation comes as a group of “disenfranchised” Ontario Tory party members prepare to ask for an injunction to delay the leadership vote. The injunction will be heard Friday morning, according to a tweet from lawyer and former Liberal MP John Nunziata. Voting in the race to replace Patrick Brown is supposed to end a few hours later, at noon.

Ford and Granic Allen say too many party members still haven’t been able to vote. The process has been slowed down because members have to wait for information that the party sent out via Canada Post before they can vote.

On Thursday, the two candidates continued their calls to extend the leadership race by a week – the leadership committee rejected the request Wednesday night.

As of Thursday afternoon, the leadership committee said more than 70,000 members had registered to vote and more than 53,000 members had already voted.

Voter information was sent to more than 190,000 members by February 28, according to leadership committee chair Hartley Lefton. The deadline to register as a voter expired on Thursday at 8 p.m.

Even though some members are missing out on the vote, Lefton said the party has already seen an “unprecedented” level of engagement.

Ford wouldn’t set a bar for what voter turnout needs to be before he would accept the result.

“I won’t accept anything until everyone — even if I win — I want everyone to vote,” Ford said.

Because of the timing of the leadership race — after party nominations — a source with close knowledge of the race said its normal that people who signed up as members to support a candidate in a local riding nomination aren’t invested enough with the party to also register to elect a leader.

Granic Allen said she would first “consult” with her team before deciding whether to contest the leadership result.

Lefton said he hoped the party would turn its sights on the Liberals after Saturday.

“After the leader is announced, we expect that all party members will unify and rally around the leader because we have a job to do on June 7.”

The two remaining campaigns — for Caroline Mulroney and Christine Elliott — have both rejected the idea of challenging the leadership result.

After backing Ford’s request on Wednesday for a one-week extension, Mulroney acquiesced Thursday to the party’s decision to stick with the March 10 end-date.

Campaign spokesperson Melissa Lantsman said Mulroney “believes that this process will produce a fair result on Saturday.”

But she reiterated Mulroney’s frustration with the voting system.

“Caroline is disappointed with the party’s decision to not extend the timelines,” Lantsman said. “It is clear that there were problems with the distribution of the PINs and this is something that Caroline will be looking into when she is elected Leader. We regret that there will be so many members who will be unable to vote.”


https://ipolitics.ca/2018/03/09/well-wait-see-ford-toys-contesting-pc-leadership-result/
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( a group is going to court to try and extend the voting period although I'm not sure what this would accompolish unless they order the pc's to provide alternative verification #/ pins or a secondary way for people to vote who had been unable to do so online )



Court to hear call to extend PC leadership race

News 10:24 PM



Court to hear call to extend PC leadership race-Image1



TORONTO — A Toronto lawyer representing a disenfranchised member of Ontario's Progressive Conservatives says he's taken legal action in an effort to extend the party's leadership race by a week.

Jeffrey Radnoff said the Superior Court of Justice was scheduled to hear his application for an injunction on Friday morning, just hours before voting in the contentious race was scheduled to end.

The party ruled against prolonging the race late Wednesday, saying that would contravene its constitution, and instead decided to push back the registration deadline to Thursday night and let members vote until noon Friday.

But Radnoff said in an email late Thursday that his client, listed on the notice of application as Christopher Arsenault, had not received a personal identification number allowing him to vote.

"Clearly, a significant number of members of the party, including the applicant, have been deprived of their right to vote as guaranteed in the party's constitution," Radnoff wrote in an email.

The chair of the leadership organizing committee, Hartley Lefton, wrote in an email Thursday that the party's election is in accordance with the PC constitution. He noted that the voting period had already been extended once, and the verification period had its deadline pushed back three times.

"It is unfortunate to learn that certain individuals may be considering this step, after we have worked so closely with leadership campaigns and with party members from across the province on a leadership election process passed by the PC party executive in accordance with the constitution," Lefton wrote.

News of the court action came hours after one of the candidates vying for the top spot alleged that party "elites" were handpicking those who would be able to cast a ballot in the leadership election.

Former Toronto city councillor Doug Ford said key documents required to participate were sent by email to specific members while ignoring others — including his own mother — awaiting the same information.

Ford and the other candidates — former Progressive Conservative legislator Christine Elliott, Toronto lawyer and businesswoman Caroline Mulroney and parental rights activist Tanya Granic Allen — have all raised the alarm in recent days over the voting process.


Ford, Mulroney and Granic Allen have all pushed for the party to extend the leadership race by a week in order to ensure all members can participate.

"The political elites, they distribute PIN numbers to a special group — and I don't know who picks this group — and then Mr. and Mrs. Smith ... they don't get to vote," Ford told The Canadian Press.

"Something is wrong. I'll let you come to your own conclusion," he said. "This is not a transparent election."

Party executives did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Ford's allegations Thursday, but have previously said they were aware of concerns over delays in getting members the documents they need to vote.

Ford said he believes the legitimacy of the race has been compromised, but he was noncommittal when asked if he would dispute the results.

Mulroney said she believes the election will produce a fair result, but she vowed to look into the PIN distribution issues if she wins. Granic Allen said she would continue to call for the voting deadline to be postponed.

The rules of the leadership race include provisions for filing complaints and appealing decisions, but those wishing to contest the results could also turn to the courts.

"You would have to show that it affected the vote enough to have changed the result," said Duff Conacher, co-founder of Democracy Watch.

It's incredibly rare for the courts to overturn the results of an election, however, and it would be more effective to seek an injunction before the votes are tallied, he said.

"If you have real proof that things are not working the way that all the rules say they should be — or worse, actually rigged in some way — then it's much better to go before a judge now, rather then put the judge in a position of overturning what thousands of people said they want," said Conacher, a political science professor at the University of Ottawa.

Asked about the prospect of a court challenge, Tory legislator Todd Smith said he hoped it wouldn't come to that.

"I think what I would like to see on Saturday is, no matter who wins, is that the other campaigns unite behind our leader and we start to focus on Kathleen Wynne and the Liberals," said Smith. "It's been five or six weeks now where we've been pointing the guns inwards — I think right now it's important that we focus on defeating the Liberals on June 7."

The party said nearly 77,000 members had registered to vote and more than 44,000 had cast a ballot as of Wednesday evening


https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/news-story/8317676-court-to-hear-call-to-extend-pc-leadership-race/
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( new numbers just posted say over 60,000 have voted )



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What proportion of the total membership has voted? Why would people pay $10 and then not vote? Perhaps because it's too complex, perhaps because they don't know who to vote for in the first place.

There are all kinds of signs of dishonesty and rigging. How does anyone know how their vote get tallied? If Volkswagen can programme a car to beat the pollution requirements, why would anyone doubt that it would be possible for a bit of invisible computer code to misdirect a ballot?

Chaos reigns. TC thinks it's Doug Ford that's the problem. No, it's the chaos that is the problem. It gets worse and worse.

As for me, I am not voting. Nor contributing again until they show me that they can be trusted.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest AR poll for Ontario just came out

PC: 50
LPC: 24
NDP: 22
Other: 4

http://angusreid.org/wp-conten.....leader.pdf

There is certainly no shortage of undecided voters;
But there is little good news for the LPC in the polling
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