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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject: Party affiliation in the Senate reconsidered ... Reply with quote

Another broken promise? Not really. But it does seem like another of Justin's good ideas is being adjusted to reality. Apparently, the Senate Liberals are to blame for their failings ...

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Liberals seek new approach to Senate amid legislative roadblocks
For first time, Liberals invited their senate representative to cabinet retreat
By John Paul Tasker, CBC News Posted: Jan 13, 2018 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Jan 13, 2018 5:00 AM ET

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Liberals have passed half as many bills as Harper's government in same time period
Trudeau accused of trying to abolish opposition in the Senate
The Senate's independents aren't behind its unpredictability

After two years of a relatively lacklustre legislative agenda, the Liberal government is taking a second look at how it engages with the chamber tasked with giving bills sober second thought.

For the first time, the Liberal government invited its representative in the Senate, Sen. Peter Harder, to its cabinet retreat for briefings this week, as it fine tunes outreach efforts to senators of all political stripes.

That's just one step it has taken as it looks to improve its lobbying efforts amid a new spirit of independence in the upper chamber. The government has also instructed the bureaucracy to bolster its cabinet briefings to include tips on how to pass bills into law in the new Senate — where senators aren't necessarily loyal to the government.

Among Liberal insiders, there is a developing consensus that the increasingly independent Senate — something that came about largely because of their own doing — is partly to blame for the comparatively small number of government bills that have received royal assent since the Liberals were elected in 2015. Delays and amendments, by senators on all sides of the chamber, have left some bills on the order paper for months on end. [....]
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic.....-1.4483432


What a laff riot these guys are. If only they didn't have the keys to the Treasury ...

Another one of their 'good ideas' going off the rails. Someone should remind the boy PM that diversity is a good thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Liberals got exactly what they advertised.
The upper chamber is now an eclectic collection of individuals who have a wealth of independent ideas that are free of party affiliation and without patronage.

And the result was exactly what we had expected;
The most powerful legislative body in Ottawa took their new found independence and began legislating as if they were an elected body, except without the hassle of being accountable to an electorate.

The walk back of this position was as predictable as the Liberals not changing an electoral system that allows them to govern with a majority with 39% of the popular vote.

There are 11 Senate Vacancies, I would imagine this is simply a precursor to appointing several former MPs or individuals with parties ties prior to the summer recess.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
The Liberals got exactly what they advertised.
The upper chamber is now an eclectic collection of individuals who have a wealth of independent ideas that are free of party affiliation and without patronage.

And the result was exactly what we had expected;
The most powerful legislative body in Ottawa took their new found independence and began legislating as if they were an elected body, except without the hassle of being accountable to an electorate.

The walk back of this position was as predictable as the Liberals not changing an electoral system that allows them to govern with a majority with 39% of the popular vote.

There are 11 Senate Vacancies, I would imagine this is simply a precursor to appointing several former MPs or individuals with parties ties prior to the summer recess.



it be interesting to see who the liberals appoint to fill the vacancies , I highly doubt it will include any current mp's but former mp's could be a possibility although still unlikely

but most of trudeau's independent senators were clearly on the centre left of the political spectrum
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they got exactly what they expected, why didn't they expect it? You can forgive a short attention span up to a point but this is ridiculous.

You called it, Cosmo, when the boy PM pranced out to make his announcement, smug as Robespierre.

It joins a lengthening list of amendments to other of Justin's good ideas ... like the hopefully scrapped proportional representation good idea ... we will be stuck with the mess to emerge from their good idea to cartelize the former crime of marijuana possession and sale. They seem to have trouble getting their piece of the action.

The latest? Their good idea of giving the really big polluters a break on the carbon tax thingy ... it'll end up with small potato polluters like us paying, while Sun Oil gets a pass.

I wonder if any of his good ideas actually work?

But what can you do but laugh? There's a reason news and entertainment are merging in the media. It's because certainly, our politics features bungled trade negotiations and one of those un-enjoyable sitcoms like Married with Children.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why didn't they expect it?
Because they campaigned on ideals rather than reality.

The idea of "regular" non-political Canadians giving a second look to legislation on paper seems like a very intriguing direction to take, the problem is the way things should go as opposed to the way they do go tend to vary wildly.

Much like the 1990 Election of Bob Rae,
His slate of Candidates were largely not politicians but a cross section of regular non-political people coming together to form government.

We know how that ended up.

Electoral Reform, Senate Reform, and a host of other issue with interesting campaign trail ideas but were simply never reality.
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