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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenney deserves a lot of credit. Notley has to hear the clock ticking. She will probably join Bob Rae, a former hero of the NDP who became premier, to quickly embark upon a policy line that ensured the NDP would remain on the margins for a long time.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
I can't recall a by-election where the winner despite the fact that turn out was lower than it was during the last general election (10,852 Vs 16,974) won the riding with more votes than the winner during the general (7,760 Vs. 5,939)


they merged the pc's and wildrose so his total might still have been less than 2015 total of both those parties


but it seems they went all out to bring extra voters to the polls so his margin be bigger , where is a lot of ndp or liberal people just stayed home
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
Kenney deserves a lot of credit. Notley has to hear the clock ticking. She will probably join Bob Rae, a former hero of the NDP who became premier, to quickly embark upon a policy line that ensured the NDP would remain on the margins for a long time.



that might be the scary thing for a lot of Albertans , you have currently a government in power ( with a majority ) that has very little support in the province , maybe in the 20-30% range according to some polls

and there an ideologically driven bunch determined to hold onto power and advance there agenda , whatever that is ?

there willing to do what ever they can to help themselves out , they just voted to eliminate 3 rural ridings that almost certaintly would of went conservative in 2019 and instead replace them with 3 new ridings in Edmonton and Calgary , places where the ndp might do better , claiming its cause of population growth in the cities , but normally when cities need new ridings , there simply added and isn't a need to eliminate others to do so
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
Kenney deserves a lot of credit. Notley has to hear the clock ticking. She will probably join Bob Rae, a former hero of the NDP who became premier, to quickly embark upon a policy line that ensured the NDP would remain on the margins for a long time.


Or run for the Liberals in the next Federal Election ;)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
Bugs wrote:
Kenney deserves a lot of credit. Notley has to hear the clock ticking. She will probably join Bob Rae, a former hero of the NDP who became premier, to quickly embark upon a policy line that ensured the NDP would remain on the margins for a long time.


Or run for the Liberals in the next Federal Election ;)




well the idea of Notley running for the federal liberals may sound crazy , maybe not that crazy when considering some of the high profile ndp people who have chosen to run for the liberals federally not the ndp ( Ujjal Dosanjh former ndp premier BC , Chris Axworthy Sask mla and Mary Ann Mihychuk Manitoba mla ) those are just some I can remember off hand

also the federal riding of Edmonton Strathcona is held by ndp mp Linda Duncan , although she's been an mp since 2008 and by 2019 or a few years afterwords , she'd likely be nearing retirement and Notley's provincial riding is in the federal one so she's made an ideal candidate
if the federal ndp haven't recovered by then and liberals polling better in alberta than ndp , it certainly be a riding the liberals might take a run at as it has a left of centre history

but realistically the idea of her running for the liberals is still a bit hard to see at this point , although I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of her mla's eventually run for the liberals federally , I don't think it will be long before some look for new jobs , either on there own terms or once there fired by constituents
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( Kenney is already thinking ahead and looking for more female candidates , something the UCP does not have much of at the moment )

ALBERTA POLITICS

UCP Leader Jason Kenney, fresh off by-election win, looking to recruit LGBTQ, female candidates


Kelly Cryderman

CALGARY


Published December 15, 2017

Updated 17 hours ago



As Jason Kenney continues in his quest to win the job of Alberta premier, the former Conservative federal cabinet minister says he will work to broaden his party's support in the NDP's Edmonton stronghold, and to recruit a "diverse" group of candidates including LGBTQ community members and women.

"I will be making a very deliberate effort to reach out to women candidates," he said in an interview Friday.

Mr. Kenney won a thumping victory in the Calgary-Lougheed by-election on Thursday under the four-month-old banner of his United Conservative Party (UCP), taking 71.5 per cent of the 10,852 ballots cast. The NDP and Alberta Liberal candidates won 17 and nine per cent of the vote, respectively.

The suburban Calgary riding is a long-time conservative seat. But the resounding nature of the win gives credence to his argument that the UCP can win the spring 2019 election based on economic issues, and that Albertans don't trust the NDP government when it comes to bringing down the province's debt, or managing still-high unemployment. Mr. Kenney also harks back fondly to the federal-provincial battles of decades past, and says he will put an end to the largely cordial Ottawa-Alberta NDP relationship on energy and climate policies, with a promise to "stand up to the Trudeau Liberals and defend Alberta."

There's a lot of wind at Mr. Kenney's back. The UCP is riding high in polls after his breakneck run in four campaigns in the past year: He won the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party in March, he campaigned successfully for the PC and Wildrose parties to merge into the UCP in July, and he took the leadership of the UCP party in October. In Thursday's by-election, he won his legislature seat with a greater share of the popular vote than combined Wildrose and PC support in the 2015 election. With centrist parties such as the Alberta Liberals and Alberta Party struggling to find support, the UCP's main competition as of now is the governing NDP.

Mr. Kenney comes from the right flank of Canada's conservative movement, with no qualms about describing the NDP as "a job-killing, socialist government." The NDP line of defence on economic and fiscal matters is that a Kenney government would cut spending to the bone, endangering the province's fragile economic recovery.

But it is on social issues where Mr. Kenney engenders the strongest reaction from his detractors.

The NDP has focused in on Mr. Kenney's argument that in some cases – subject to the judgment of school officials – parents should be informed if their children join school peer-support groups called gay-straight alliances (GSAs). This week, Mr. Kenney stood by UCP House Leader Jason Nixon when it was revealed that a B.C. human-rights tribunal ruled in 2008 that Mr. Nixon wrongly fired a female employee after she complained she was being sexually harassed by a client employing Mr. Nixon's jobsite safety firm. This lead Premier Rachel Notley to question the message Mr. Kenney was sending to women.

"At the end of the day, Jason Kenney has created a new party, but there is no new vision," Ms. Notley said in an interview this week.

"If there is anything different about what he has created, it's that he has surprised me by the continued injection of almost extreme levels of social conservatism [in his party], and his inability to bring that into line."


The 27-member UCP caucus counts only two women, and independent Calgary pollster Janet Brown notes that women have traditionally not supported provincial conservative parties as strongly as men. On the other side, the NDP elected the first three openly gay members of the Alberta legislature, and almost half of its caucus are women.

In an interview, Mr. Kenney says he will use the holidays to "hibernate" and catch up on sleep. But with a timeline of more than a year to the next provincial election, he says he has his sights set on building constituency associations in all of Alberta's 87 ridings, policy development and meeting Ms. Notley head to head in the legislature. In the latter half of 2018, he will dedicate efforts to attracting "talented and diverse" candidates to his party.

"In our party it doesn't matter what God you worship or who you love, you're more than welcome," he said, repeating what has become a mantra. In the past, he has said he won't legislate on any hot-button social issues, and is focused on reigniting the economy, job creation and fiscal responsibility.

On finding candidates, he said his party doesn't believe in the "condescending approach" of quotas for women candidates. "We just need to reach out and invite strong Alberta women to get into the process."

When asked about outreach to the gay and lesbian community, Mr. Kenney noted that a number of gay people worked on his campaigns. "I don't accept for a second that people's politics are determined by their sexual orientation. I think it's insulting to suggest that people have monolithic views based on their sexual identity."

He acknowledges that Edmonton – where the NDP now holds all 19 provincial seats – will be a uphill challenge. But he believes he can built on strong federal Conservative support in Alberta's capital.


"We're going to focus a lot of our time and resources and effort on the Edmonton region, because going into the next election cycle, we have a very deep base of support in other parts of the province. We want Edmonton to be at the table, and to have a strong voice – should we form government."

Mr. Kenney said he will also look to growing communities of new Canadians for support. While Alberta's recession has meant a net loss of interprovincial migrants to the once-booming province, international migration has stayed high. Alberta now has 17.1 per cent of Canada's "recent immigrants" – defined by Statistics Canada as people who obtained their landed immigrant or permanent-resident status in Canada in the past five years.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/ucp-leader-jason-kenney-to-recruit-lgbtq-female-candidates/article37356111/
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bell: Kenney says NDP smears just ain't workin'


Rick Bell



Published:
December 16, 2017


Updated:
December 16, 2017 10:06 AM EST


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Jason Kenney celebrates after winning the Calgary Lougheed by-election on Thursday December 14, 2017. Gavin Young/Postmedia



The NDP threw everything they had at him.

They said he was extreme and risky and intolerant and he would hurt people. He would even take away the new Calgary cancer centre.

But their attacks never got him down.

In fact, when the dust settled, it was the NDP who hit the canvas. On Thursday night, United Conservative Leader Jason Kenney turned the tables. None of the government’s mud-slinging stuck.

It was Kenney who hurt the NDP. He mopped the floor with them.


In the vote to represent the Calgary-Lougheed riding in the legislature, it was Kenney sitting at 72% support and the NDP flattened at 17%.

Orange Crushed. A mind-blowing 55% gap between the two parties. As good as Kenney’s crowd could ever have expected.

On Friday, the morning after the night before, Kenney is still throwing the jabs. Kenney says the Notley NDP’s decision to drag him through the mud backfired on them. It blew up in their faces.

“Severely normal Albertans rolled their eyes at the smear and fear. The NDP went deep into the gutter and I must thank them because I think that’s partly why we got over 70%. When they go low, we go high.

“Albertans have no love for the politics of personal destruction. They have good built-in BS detectors. The NDP tried to turn this into a referendum on me and they lost and we won. Big time.”

The United Conservative leader shakes his head at those responsible for penning the lines of “scripted insults” the NDP love to spit out at his party.

“If I was the premier, I’d be firing whoever is writing their stuff. If I was an undergraduate campus newspaper editor, I would reject the copy as embarrassingly immature.

“These guys are the government of Alberta. It’s time for them to start acting like it and not like a bunch of over-caffeinated college sophomore lefties.”

For Kenney, a lot of folks just tuned them out. The louder and angrier the NDP became, the less they were heard.

“It’s like they’re going to somebody’s house blaring loud rock music. People just wanted to turn it off. It’s just not being listened to.”

Then there were social issues. Kenney, the intolerant. Another scary face of Kenney in the NDP playbook.

The political insiders, who think deep thoughts and talk only to each other, thought Kenney’s views on so-called social questions would be his undoing. After all, Kenney was often crucified on Twitter, the echo chamber for people who don’t have any place to go on a Friday night.

Kenney felt, when a student joined a gay-straight alliance, the school in some circumstances could notify the kid’s parents.

Kenney insists he represents the opinion of the majority. He had a poll done and it said he was in the mainstream, not the NDP. And besides, the issue isn’t anywhere near top of mind for most voters.

“The only time divisive social issues come up is when the NDP’s flyer is in people’s mailboxes. People are too smart to be manipulated by that stuff.”

Kenney encourages the Notley NDP over Christmas to think about how their strategy worked — or rather didn’t.

As for the whiners, the excuse makers who tell us the only possibility in the Calgary-Lougheed byelection was a beating for their party so the NDP didn’t really lose, it’s a laugh.

Right until the polls closed, the NDP worked hard to at least finish close to Kenney and embarrass the man.

After all, the NDP scored 32% of the vote in Calgary-Lougheed two and a half years ago.

On Thursday, the NDP vote was cut almost in half and Kenney got more votes than the Wildrose and PC results in the 2015 election added together.

“They were humiliated. You can’t put lipstick on that pig,” says Kenney. “They can try to wish this away but they do so it at their own peril. There’s a message here.”

He speaks of frustration, the “anger at the NDP’s indifference to the economic suffering going on here.”

Then there’s the carbon tax hike on New Year’s Day. The free light bulbs didn’t turn enough Albertans on.

Kenney went to work bright and early Friday morning. He has a jam-packed schedule until Christmas. He’s already thinking about recruiting United Conservative candidates for the battle with Notley in 2019.

“We’re just going to keep going all the way until the next election. I don’t have a stop button.”


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