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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( another resignation from congress )

Rep. Trent Franks resigning from Congress

By Elizabeth Zwirz | Fox News

Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., is expected to resign, Fox News learned Thursday.

Arizona Congressman Trent Franks has announced his decision to resign from Congress, according to a statement he released Thursday on the matter.

Trent said he will leave his seat on Jan. 31, 2018 following complaints from two of his employees, with whom he discussed the subject of becoming a surrogate for he and his wife, who have had difficulty with fertility, he said.

The House of Representatives Committee on Ethics had previously released a statement announcing an investigation into into the congressman.

"Pursuant to the Committee's action, the Investigation Subcommittee shall have jurisdiction to determine whether Representative Trent Franks engaged in conduct that constitutes sexual harassment and/or retaliation for opposing sexual harassment, in violation of House Rules, law, regulations, or other standards of conduct," the statement said.

Upon leaving the House floor on Thursday, Trent was consoled by fellow Republican members, including Rep. Louis Gohmert, R-Texas, Rep. Robert Aderholt, R-Ala., and Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz.

Trent is currently serving his eight term in Congress -- he was first elected in 2002.

The congressman serves on the Armed Services Committee and the Judiciary Committee, in addition to be a member of the House Freedom Caucus.

He's known to be a staunch fiscal and social conservative with a pro-life stance on abortion. He sponsored House-passed legislation to make it a crime for any person to perform an abortion if the age of the fetus is 20 weeks or more.

Before being elected into Congress, Trent was a small business owner and later served in the Arizona Legislature, according to his website biography.

According to the page, Trent is a strong proponent for smaller government and "believes in personal responsibility, strong national defense, free enterprise, protecting the innocent, and in the timeless truths and principles of the United States Constitution."

This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huge news! In Alabama, the charges of sexual impropriety hit the Moore campaign hard. It wasn't that it was so bad, but a 30-something man sniffing around for dates with teenagers seems a tad creepy.

It became a Gloria Alred production, where three or four -- I never watched this closely enough to know (after all, Harvey was being revealed at the time). The most credible of the women had a yearbook with his signature on it, which she used to back up her story of him groping her.

He denied it, and claimed while he did date these young girls, he contacted their parents and got permission, and actually was courting in a very traditional way. In 1910, it wouldn't have been weird to get a start on life before seeking a wife. In 1975, it was odd, but this was a rural town in Alabama.

Other people, who also worked at the restaurant, for instance, challenge her story. It has been a big part of this campaign, which ought to have been an easy victory for any Republican.

But now a new break in the story.

Moore Accuser Admits The Yearbook Was Doctored
Political Reporter
11:07 AM 12/08/2017

One of Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore’s accusers admitted that the yearbook she claims he signed was slightly doctored, during a Friday interview with ABC News.

Beverly Young Nelson, who accused Moore of groping her in the parking lot of a restaurant where she worked, appeared with famed liberal attorney Gloria Allred in the interview with “Good Morning America,” where she admitted to adding the date under Moore’s signature.

The attorney of the Republican senate candidate said that he didn’t want to “make any allegations,” but mentioned that the should look at the two “77s” signed in the yearbook, should be looked at.

Nelson is reportedly holding a press conference Friday afternoon.

The larger issue is control of the Senate. If Moore wins, he replaces Sessions, and the split in the Senate remains the same. If he loses, the Democrats gain a seat, and the Republican majority, already slim, is reduced to one.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:


Oh, you did not know the law huh?

Oh ok. Lesson time.

There is a close in age exemption in the law. A 15 yr old can do the dirty with an older person of no more than 4 years.

You see, teenagers are a weird bunch insofar as they are prone to make mistakes and with their hormones we recognize it and do not to penalize what teens do with each other. If a 17 yr engages in consensual sex with a 15 yr old we do not imprison. (authority or person in power clause would kick in)

Hope that helps !

If not can I get your business card? The one that reads ....
"President of Jerry Sandusky Fan Club" ?

Your only problem with this is the age difference?

My only problem? Naw...dont think so.
He is/was 52 years old getting a 15 yr old to show him her tits and cooch .

You are some thing else in that you are ok with your daughter getting some from some old creep.

Kind of makes you a shitty parent then. Congrats.

Why? You are a guy who thinks it's OK for the ex A-G of Ontario to kill people whenever he has an incidence of road rage.

Ahh...here comes that go-to when you are losing an argument. You are a whiny little liar arent you?
You know the facts of the case but your present your own. Good lord man you are a simpleton.

And....what does the Bryant case have to do with adults creeping on teen girls?

Who cares about your judgement?

Apparently you ! LOL ! And thats cuz your arguments (on this ) are infantile and moronic.


It's entirely based on which side you're on. You sleep with an abortionist, for Christ's sake.

I do ? (I have told you before ....now again.) She makes babies you idiot! LOL

You have to give us real reasons, not the strange feelings that flit through your brain when you see the name Bugs.

I have tried but you refuse to read. I like schooling you when you post dumb shit like you do. Ever see me have to do that with others? Naw...they post w a brain and stick to facts, whereas you like to make shit up and think youre smart, youre not, youre a dumbass when it comes to social issue posts .

For example...

As for proportionality, we'd have to think of what other crimes one would have to commit in the same state to get 21 months in a FEDERAL facility. How much money would you have to steal, as a first time white offender at 52 years of age who has remorse and had a big career ... how big a crime would such a person have to commit to get 21 months in New York State?

Wow...dumbass post is dumbass.
Now you equate a convicted sex offender to someone stealing some cash.


I wish I knew the answer.

I wish you knew the question, but obviously you dont.
Maybe you can make some shit up and pretend it proves your point.

Now THAT I leave to you to make up .

Youre good at it . LOL.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is all shit I have been through with TC before. I don't need to respond.

I am not voting in that election, and am merely bringing it to attention because I am pretty sure that this story would not appear in Canadian media. For the record, I am neither a supporter nor an opponent of Judge Roy Moore. I am an observer. I do hope that Trump can maintain a majority in the Senate, however.

Secondly, we are talking about rural Alabama in the 1970ies, which is almost 40 years ago. There has been a big stir because it affects the balance of power in the Senate.

Gloria Alred presented a group of women who felt offended by Roy Moore. This is getting to be a dog-and-pony show. As sex goes, it was small potatoes. He did date young women, but his claim is that he went to their homes to pick them up and meet their parents, and all of that. In some cases, he phoned to get permission. He probably brought posies. There are local people who corroborate this.

I think TC is a little bit dreamy-eyed and confused. Big-city social work regulations in 2017 Canada, where you are legally required to wash your hands before sex, probably has very little to do with the courting practices of rural southern US communities in 1975. And when did Canadian law apply in Alabama anyway?

The question is: will Judge Roy Moore be a bigger sexual harasser on Capitol Hill than Teddy Kennedy and Bill Clinton? Or a lot of Senators ... that's part of why I think something else is going on. Who is going to tell me that Al Franken is any different than probably another score of Senators. Why him?

And even more suspicious -- why is so accepting of it? This is not Al Franken's characteristic response.

We'll see in the election how the local people chalk all this up. They know best.

For those who are interested, an audio by Levin, an astute commentator on the political scene from a stern, doctrinaire point of view. Biblical.


He feels that the Franken promise to resign is bogus. (Watch at the 4 minute mark for a couple of minutes, after the bombast.)

He says this promise of a resignation heads off McConnell's threat to take the case to the Ethics Committee.

If Moore wins, the Democrats plan to immediately make him a poster boy of sexual groping, and they won't be able to make that stick as long as Al Franken's exposure hangs in the air. They'll look like hypocrites.

If Moore arrives, part of the issue will be the importance of keeping the balance of power so close ... and calls will go out for Franken to delay his resignation ... forever.

I dunno, myself. But I don't think the resignation promise is for real.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump calls on voters to back alleged sex abuser Roy Moore and even mocks one of his accusers in huge Florida rally – fifteen miles from Alabama – as he unloads on 'fake news' and can't resist a jab at Hillary Clinton
* President Donald Trump rallied his supporters in Pensacola, Florida, a town that's less than 15 miles from this month's political ground zero
* Pensacola voters will decide the strange U.S. Senate special election between Republican Roy Moore and Democrat Doug Jones
* During his speech he jabbed at one of the nine women who have accused Moore of misconduct, Beverly Young Nelson, who revised a detail of her story Friday
* 'You know the yearbook? Did you see that? That was a little mistake made. She started writing things in the yearbook,' the president scolded
* Trump also stopped and pointed to a man in the crowd at one point and said: 'This guy's screaming, 'We want Roy Moore!' He's right'
* Moore stands accused of sexual misconduct by nine different women, including two who say he groped them while they were 14 and 16 years old
* Trump kicked off his speech taking a swipe at 'fake news' media on the day CNN had to correct a story
* It had falsely claimed Trump's son Donald Jr. was tipped off to a cache of hacked emails before WikiLeaks published them
* He said the reporters he loves to hate 'have been apologizing left and right'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....z50m78Go9J

This is from the tabloid-ish end of British journalism, but it has better information than CNN! Trump has a big rally on the borders of Alabama and all but endorsed Roy Moore. In the prevailing context, the charges are weaker than what now seems normal. The media has blown this out of proportion. The more credible of the two complainants (according to Ann Coulter) has admitted to tampering with the evidence.

Trump has tried to avoid making this a plebescite on himself, but it is, now. If Moore wins, it will perhaps be a watershed moment, as far as Congress is concerned. If he loses, the Democrats will feel they have the momentum, and double down of their efforts to stop Trump at any cost.
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