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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Editorial: Wynne’s minimum wage hike will do maximum damage


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Published:
October 28, 2017


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October 28, 2017 7:17 PM EDT



Ever since Premier Kathleen Wynne announced her decision to up Ontario’s minimum wage by 31.6% to $15 an hour within 15 months, the reviews have been coming in fast and furious.

And they’ve been awful.

The Legislature’s independent, non-partisan Financial Accountability Office predicts at least 50,000 jobs will be lost.

It warns groups like new immigrants will be hardest hit as businesses deal with higher labour costs by laying off workers and cancelling expansion plans.

A TD Bank study predicted 90,000 lost jobs.


The Keep Ontario Working Coalition, a group of business organizations, estimated 185,000 job losses over two years.

Beyond that, as the Fraser Institute’s Ben Eisen pointed out in a recent Toronto Sun column, minimum wage hikes are an extremely inefficient way to alleviate poverty because most minimum wage workers aren’t poor.

Only one in seven live in low-income households as defined by Statistics Canada’s low-income cut-off, Eisen noted.

In fact, 60% of minimum wage workers are teens or youths aged 15 to 24, 86% of whom live with their parents or other relatives.

Another 19% are married with employed spouses, 90% of whom earn more than the minimum wage, or are self-employed.

Only 2% of minimum wage workers, Eisen noted, are single parents with young children, a group the Wynne Liberals constantly invoke to sell their policy.

A recent poll by Dart Insight and Communications for Newstalk 1010 found 61% of 814 Toronto residents surveyed from Sept. 16-19 opposed Wynne’s minimum wage hike plan, with only 39% in favour.

Of the 61% against in Toronto, traditionally a Liberal election stronghold, 44% wanted a longer phase-in period to minimize job losses while 17% wanted the hikes scrapped.

The major concern of the public and business groups is the speed and size of the minimum wage hikes Wynne is imposing, which will maximize job losses.

On Oct. 1, Wynne upped the minimum wage to $11.60 per hour from $11.40, to be followed by a massive increase to $14 on Jan. 1, 2018 and $15 on Jan. 1, 2019.

A study by the Keep Ontario Working Coalition said spreading these hikes over five years, instead of 15 months, could decrease job losses by 74%.

Hiking the minimum wage is attractive to Wynne because she’s conscripting the private sector into paying for a major Liberal election promise.

We don’t expect her to back down. Ideologues never do.

Typical of their decisions going back to Wynne’s predecessor, Dalton McGuinty, Liberals double down on bad ideas, such as their Green Energy Act, regardless of real-world evidence their policies are misguided.

Wynne won’t change. Neither will the Liberals. The only way for Ontario to rid itself of these economically destructive policies will be to vote them out of office in the June, 2018 election.

http://torontosun.com/opinion/.....mum-damage
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know anybody who thinks this is a good idea. It isn't just theoretical economics that says so. It's practical experience. How many times in history do you imagine that governments have tried to solve poverty through compelling an increase in wages? And how many times has it worked?

If you could solve poverty by increasing wages to $15, why not increase them to $45 and we'll all be rich?

The fact that the government has gone to these lengths to fool the public is scandalous. It's like the HOLLYWOOD sign in LA. it says UNFIT TO GOVERN.

This underlines the skullduggery they have resorted to in order to hide their gas plant blunders, and mess they've made of the entire energy infrastructure. So now it says:

UNFIT TO GOVERN

It must now be at the point where any of the alternatives would be better than what we've got.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those following

Bill 148 has passed second reading and is now back in Committee.

http://ontla.on.ca/web/bills/b.....ail_status

As of November 7th it remains in the Commons with less than two months before they expect Business to accommodate the new changes within it.

It still needs to pass third reading and receive Royal Assent

The next committee meeting scheduled to discuss this is not till Thursday, November 16;

http://ontla.on.ca/web/go2.jsp.....hedule_web

The current session goes till December 14, 2017 and does not resume till March 12th 2018.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( the pc's are now promising not to end minimum wage hike but slow down the implementation so its $15 in 2022 instead of 2019 )




Robert Benzie‏Verified account @robertbenzie · 36m36 minutes ago

Tories have made their first significant campaign promise: slow down minimum wage hike from $14. Increase a quarter a year to $15 in 2022. Slated to be $15 in 2019. #onpoli
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$15-an-hour minimum wage? Not so fast, Tories say


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Published:
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$15-an-hour minimum wage? Not so fast, Tories say

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PC. leader Patrick Brown along with L-R, MPP Vic Fedeli, MPP Jeff Yurek, MPP Todd Smith and MPP John Yakabuski comment on Fraser Institute report at Queens Park in Toronto, Ont. on Wednesday, February 17, 2016. PC MPP John Yakabuski said his party, if elected to govern in next June's provincial election, would slow down the implementation of the minimum wage increases.Dave Thomas/Toronto Sun



An Ontario Progressive Conservative government would delay the $15-an-hour minimum wage until the year 2022.

The Kathleen Wynne government is raising the minimum wage to $14 an hour as of Jan. 1, and plans to increase it to $15 an hour in 2019.

The move has been well received by anti-poverty and labour groups, but business of all sizes have said the rapid increase in employee costs will lead to price hikes and job cuts.

The Financial Accountability Office of Ontario has warned that 50,000 jobs could be lost.

PC MPP John Yakabuski said his party, if elected to govern in next June’s provincial election, would slow down the implementation of the minimum wage increases.




While leaving the $14 an hour wage in place, the PCs would hike it by 0.25 cents an hour each year until it reached $15 an hour on Jan. 1 2022.

“We’re not going to roll it back,” Yakabuski said. “If it’s already been passed and people have been paid that wage, it’s very, very difficult, and quite frankly unfair, to tell somebody that something that you were given six months ago… we’re now taking away.”

Ontario Finance Minister Charles Sousa released his fall economic statement Tuesday that includes a commitment to drop the corporate tax rate for small business to 3.5% from 4.5% in response to concerns raised about the minimum wage.



Ontario Minister of Finance Charles Sousa. Ernest Doroszuk/Toronto Sun

As well, the fall economic statement proposes $124 million in financial incentives over the next three years to offset the cost of hiring youth aged 15 to 29 in companies with fewer than 100 employees.

Labour Minister Kevin Flynn issued a statement condemning the Tory minimum wage plan.

“Our plan to phase in a $15 minimum wage over 18 months ensures more workers are benefiting from Ontario’s economic growth,” Flynn said.

NDP Leader Andrea Horwath said a delayed minimum wage idea shows how out of touch the provincial Tories are, but said the Wynne Liberals aren’t much better.

The promises in the economic statement are like Wynne’s “stretch goal” of lowering auto insurance rates – not something Ontarians can take to the bank, she said.

The fall economic statement anticipates a balanced budget next spring although net debt will continue to rise to a whopping $335.6 billion in 2019-20.

Sousa said he expects the net debt-to-GDP ratio to fall, but did not provide a date when the actual net debt might begin to level off or fall.

The government needs to invest in future economic competitiveness by spending on infrastructure like transit, schools and hospitals, he said.

“Not to do them would be irresponsible,” Sousa said

http://torontosun.com/news/pro.....tories-say
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FEDELI: Liberals' economic statement an election ploy


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Ontario Finance Minister Charles Sousa speaks to reporters in Queens Park in Toronto on Nov. 14, 2017. THE CANADIAN PRESS



BY VIC FEDELI, Special to the Toronto Sun

The Liberals’ Fall Economic Statement represents nothing more than a pre-election Hail Mary pass from an out of touch government, flailing to do or say anything to cling to power.

First, the measures aimed at small business are a pittance compared to what’s required to keep them viable, let alone competitive.

This announcement will not offset the impact of the Liberals’ rushed minimum wage plan. It is literally a fraction of the impact the sector will be hit with when the Liberals’ election-motivated minimum wage plan is implemented.

Here’s one example: A small restaurant in my Nipissing riding will be hit with $152,000 in added costs. Their annual profit is under $100,000. So, a 1% reduction of tax on their profit is peanuts in comparison. With the additional costs, there will no longer be any profit to tax — at any rate! It’s insulting. The restaurant will still lay off workers.


These examples exist across the province. According to an independent report from TD Bank, 90,000 jobs will be lost because of Premier Kathleen Wynne’s minimum wage hike. Tuesday’s plan will not eliminate this fact.

An increased minimum wage doesn’t help if workers don’t have access to good, stable jobs.

Our MPPs have heard first-hand from workers, families, small businesses, mom-and-pop shops, local chambers of commerce, and major community employers. The concerns are endless about the pace at which the Liberals will implement the minimum wage hike.

That’s why, using a responsible approach, the Ontario PCs will phase in the increase from a $14 to $15 minimum hourly wage over four years. This means the minimum wage will increase by 25 cents each year over our mandate, starting in 2019.

Everybody in Ontario recognizes the need for higher wages. Ontario families are working harder, paying more, and getting less under the Liberals.

Between skyrocketing hydro rates and ever-increasing taxes and fees, it’s very hard for families earning the minimum to even think about balancing their books at the end of the month.

However, phasing-in the minimum wage is the responsible approach.

The second most glaring issue with this economic statement is Finance Minister Charles Sousa has doubled down on the cooking of Ontario’s books.

None of the valid concerns raised over the past couple years by the auditor general or financial accountability office have been addressed by the government.

Recall that the auditor general has, for two years in a row, refused to sign off on this government’s public accounts. Recall that recently she has said the Liberals are “making up” their own accounting methods.

This fall economic statement is part of a trend of pulling the wool over our eyes to paint Liberal numbers in a good light right before an election.

It’s evidence that Wynne is untrustworthy, and she will say anything to get re-elected.

— Fedeli is finance critic for Ontario’s PC party


http://torontosun.com/news/pro.....ction-ploy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As economics, the whole idea is crazy. As an election position, it's probably as good an approach as the have available. They want to defang the issue.

This isn't where they want to fight the election. But a $15/hr minimum wage is a promise that will convince a large number of Ontarians that the present government is just too frigged up to continue. They aren't fit to rule!

Add it with the crooked book-keeping, the jiggery-pokery with our power utilities, and so on, and it makes a pretty imposing pile of dung. And the number of people who just shake their head and say nothing is probably large.

That part of the electorate will be going into the campaign with the idea that the most important thing is to get rid of the present government.

For them, the question will be -- who will be the best ones to replace them? They are going to look for competent people with a painless path back to fiscal sanity. This shows a touch of prudence -- but in this bunch of politicians, a little prudence stands out.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( the Labour minister and a liberal mpp had some really tough words for small business owners today , rather shocking to even read what they had to say . going as far as to say its up to them to reassess there business model and if they should even be an employer , some seriously tough words for our business community )



Barrie Liberal MPP, Labour Minister talk tough over minimum-wage increase

Government responds to Barrie butcher's suggestion hydro rates, wage increase forced him out of business

News 12:08 PM by Chris Simon  Barrie Advance|

Ontario Labour Minister Kevin Flynn at Barrie's Community Wholeness Centre Dec. 7. Dec. 7, 2017. - Chris Simon/Metroland


If a business owner can’t afford upcoming minimum-wage increases, they need to re-evaluate their operating model, Barrie MPP Ann Hoggarth said.

The Liberal MPP made the comment during a news conference with Ontario Labour Minister Kevin Flynn at Barrie’s Community Wholeness Centre Dec. 7. Flynn was in the city touting the recently approved Fair Workplaces, Better Jobs Act.

“If you’re going to go out of business on the backs of your employees because you can’t afford to pay them this, perhaps you should reassess your business plan and whether you should be an employer,” Hoggarth said. “This is the right thing to do.”

This legislation includes increases to the general minimum wage to $14 per hour on Jan. 1, $15 in January 2019 and annual bumps to match the rate of inflation after that.


It also mandates a number of other changes to labour practices in the province, including: equal pay for part-time, temporary, casual and seasonal workers doing the same job as full-time employees; an expansion of personal emergency leave to 10 days per calendar year; and a ban on employers requiring a physician’s sick note. Employees will also get at least three weeks of vacation after five years of working for the same employer.

“Our new legislation addresses the needs of the modern workplace and provides a minimum wage workers can actually live on,” Flynn said.

Hoggarth also addressed the social media uproar over a Barrie butcher, who said he was forced out of business due to electricity cost increases, and the anticipated effect of the minimum wage hike.

“The gentleman was one of the nominees running for the PCs,” she said. “You don’t see other butchers closing. You have to consider the source.”

Vindum admits he is a member of the Progressive Conservative party who ran for the nomination in the Barrie-Innisfil riding.

“But I’m not targeting Wynne because of my conservative leanings,” he told Simcoe.com recently. “The economy has just been getting whittled down for small businesses for years now.



Flynn said the government does offer assistance to struggling businesses.

“Individual businesses have to make up their own minds on how to approach this,” Flynn said. “We wouldn’t have low unemployment numbers if things were so bad. Some (business owners) have stepped forward and disagreed with this. Consumers will form their own opinions, in terms of where they shop and choose to associate with.”

The province has hired an additional 175 employment standards officers to enforce the changes.

“No one in Ontario should be living below the poverty line if they are working full-time hours,” Hoggarth said. “Fairness and decency must define our workplaces.”

She stressed the local and provincial economy is strengthening, noting Statistics Canada showed Barrie had a 3.4 per cent unemployment rate last month.

“Of 15 municipalities tracked, Barrie has the lowest unemployment in Ontario,” Hoggarth said. “We’re doing very well here.”

https://www.simcoe.com/news-story/7985541-barrie-liberal-mpp-labour-minister-talk-tough-over-minimum-wage-increase/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RCO wrote:

If a business owner can’t afford upcoming minimum-wage increases, they need to re-evaluate their operating model, Barrie MPP Ann Hoggarth said.

The Liberal MPP made the comment during a news conference with Ontario Labour Minister Kevin Flynn at Barrie’s Community Wholeness Centre Dec. 7. Flynn was in the city touting the recently approved Fair Workplaces, Better Jobs Act.

“If you’re going to go out of business on the backs of your employees because you can’t afford to pay them this, perhaps you should reassess your business plan and whether you should be an employer,” Hoggarth said. “This is the right thing to do.”

https://www.simcoe.com/news-story/7985541-barrie-liberal-mpp-labour-minister-talk-tough-over-minimum-wage-increase/


I am sure the voting public of the riding of Barrie-Innisfil will enjoy receiving advice on how they should "re-evaluate their operating model" from a Member of Provincial Parliament who has seemingly no relevant experience in business, business ownership, or business operation.

I would say the comments were arrogant but more than anything they are just tragic. A career government employee is answering the concerns of her community by being condescending and dismissive to those concerns.

How do you go door to door in June to business owners and their employees after a career seemingly entirely in the public sector and attempt to explain to them what they doing wrong with their business?

It would be like one of those business owners walking into her former classroom and explaining to her why her teaching method is incorrect and flawed.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
RCO wrote:

If a business owner can’t afford upcoming minimum-wage increases, they need to re-evaluate their operating model, Barrie MPP Ann Hoggarth said.

The Liberal MPP made the comment during a news conference with Ontario Labour Minister Kevin Flynn at Barrie’s Community Wholeness Centre Dec. 7. Flynn was in the city touting the recently approved Fair Workplaces, Better Jobs Act.

“If you’re going to go out of business on the backs of your employees because you can’t afford to pay them this, perhaps you should reassess your business plan and whether you should be an employer,” Hoggarth said. “This is the right thing to do.”

https://www.simcoe.com/news-story/7985541-barrie-liberal-mpp-labour-minister-talk-tough-over-minimum-wage-increase/


I am sure the voting public of the riding of Barrie-Innisfil will enjoy receiving advice on how they should "re-evaluate their operating model" from a Member of Provincial Parliament who has seemingly no relevant experience in business, business ownership, or business operation.

I would say the comments were arrogant but more than anything they are just tragic. A career government employee is answering the concerns of her community by being condescending and dismissive to those concerns.

How do you go door to door in June to business owners and their employees after a career seemingly entirely in the public sector and attempt to explain to them what they doing wrong with their business?

It would be like one of those business owners walking into her former classroom and explaining to her why her teaching method is incorrect and flawed.



I'm not sure this MPP had much relevant experience in anything before getting elected in 2014 , I had never even heard of her before and seem to recall she had no elected experience municipally or provincially

her comments demonstrate a level of arrogancy we're not used to seeing from our politicians
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am sure the voting public of the riding of Barrie-Innisfil will enjoy receiving advice on how they should "re-evaluate their operating model" from a Member of Provincial Parliament who has seemingly no relevant experience in business, business ownership, or business operation.


Psst....she has experience in business. Sad to report that the business she is/was in gets auto raises seemingly at will and with no background to justify it.

She was President of Elementary Teachers Federation .

Pretty sure the people up there can figure this one out.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
cosmostein wrote:

I am sure the voting public of the riding of Barrie-Innisfil will enjoy receiving advice on how they should "re-evaluate their operating model" from a Member of Provincial Parliament who has seemingly no relevant experience in business, business ownership, or business operation.


Psst....she has experience in business. Sad to report that the business she is/was in gets auto raises seemingly at will and with no background to justify it.

She was President of Elementary Teachers Federation .

Pretty sure the people up there can figure this one out.


(cough, cough) ... oh my gawd ...

I think the coffee out of my nose, thanks ... I almost barfed at that one.

The 'president' of the union has business experience? Well, they have job experience, let's not deny them that. They know, for instance, how a generous expense account policies improve morale. (Pardon me, there I go laughing again.)

I think I'll let this stinking bag lie ... it's just too easy.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add to list of things you just dont get....


...sarcasm .

Plain as day...for most.
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While I can't say much for your wit, I will at least acknowledge that you're a half a wit.

Honestly, this is a business? Automatic paycheck deductions are pooled at sent to your agents for investment?

How can you possibly confuse this with a business? How can it fail, for instance? It doesn't even have to be consistent or show a profit. In June 2017 they reported a funding surplus of $11.5 billion, so they haven't been able to invest it fast enough, so they are lowering the deductions.

These are fat cats, not business people. I give them credit for doing their job, but the idea that turning over donations and exercising oversight of financial investments is a business is so far off the idea of business that Cosmo was presenting that it's almost beyond parody.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
cosmostein wrote:

I am sure the voting public of the riding of Barrie-Innisfil will enjoy receiving advice on how they should "re-evaluate their operating model" from a Member of Provincial Parliament who has seemingly no relevant experience in business, business ownership, or business operation.


Psst....she has experience in business. Sad to report that the business she is/was in gets auto raises seemingly at will and with no background to justify it.

She was President of Elementary Teachers Federation .

Pretty sure the people up there can figure this one out.


I am hoping that was suppose to be green font :)
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