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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:26 am    Post subject: Quebec Liberals slip as CAQ surges in new poll Reply with quote

( although the federal party is doing well in quebec , things aren't going as well provincially as the quebec liberals are losing support to the CAQ which leads for the first time since it was created )



Quebec Liberal Party slips as CAQ surges less than a year before election: poll


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CAQ Leader Francois Legault at the legislature in Quebec City in February 2016.

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Les Perreaux

MONTREAL


2 days ago

October 28, 2017



Quebec voters liberated from the independence debate are casting aside traditional allegiances and throwing support behind a third party that has never held power, a new poll has found.

The Coalition Avenir Québec, a conservative party led by former airline executive François Legault, has surged ahead of the Quebec Liberal Party in voting intentions for the first time since the CAQ was founded in 2011, according to the survey conducted by the Leger research firm for The Globe and Mail and Le Devoir.

With 11 months to go until the next provincial election, both the Liberals under Premier Philippe Couillard and Parti Québécois have sunk to depths of support never seen in elections or polls, said Jean-Marc Léger, president of the research company.


In a survey of 1,008 people, the internet poll has the CAQ sitting at 34 per cent, the Liberals at 29 per cent and the PQ at 20. (A poll of this size is considered to have a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.) The previous Leger poll in August had the Liberals at 32 per cent, the CAQ at 28 per cent and the PQ at 22.

"It's a thunderbolt," Mr. Léger said in an interview. "It's the first time since the 2014 election that the Liberals are behind and it represents a fundamental change. The Liberals have dominated for so long, but it's not just that the CAQ leads, it's that they have a big lead with francophones."


Among francophones who decide Quebec elections in key swing ridings outside Montreal, the result is stark: The CAQ has risen to 37 per cent support, up four points from August at the expense of the PQ, which sits at 24 per cent (down three) and the Liberals at 21 (down one).

"The CAQ is now in territory that would not only allow them to win – they would win a majority," Mr. Léger said.

The Liberals are even losing support among their traditional base of English-speaking and minority voters.

The party sits at 60 per cent, a drop of 9 percentage points since August and 14 percentage points since May.

PQ Leader Jean-François Lisée won the leadership one year ago vowing to put any potential referendum on ice for the first mandate should he win government.



It was a radical step for a PQ leader and the party has dropped steadily in voting intentions since. The ripples have extended beyond the PQ.

"Many sovereigntist voters decided there is no longer any fundamental reason to vote for the PQ. But it's had the same effect on the Liberals. A lot of Liberal voters are loyal election after election just to make sure there's no referendum. Federalists are no longer obliged to vote Liberal," Mr. Léger said. "This hasn't happened since the seventies."

The CAQ and Mr. Legault, a onetime PQ cabinet minister who renounced Quebec independence years ago, advocate a "strong Quebec nation within Canada" in the party's program.

The poll was conducted from Oct. 23 to 25 in the midst of a controversy over Bill 62, a law passed earlier this month that would deny public services to people wearing face coverings that was decried as targeting Muslim women who wear full veils.

The measure to enforce what the government calls "religious neutrality" is extremely popular in Quebec, but appears to have done little to help the Liberals.

"In principle, people think faces should be uncovered, but even if they think the government should act, Quebeckers do not like this kind of quarrel and have trouble reconciling their positions," Mr. Léger said.


In early October, the Liberals lost badly to the CAQ in a by-election in a normally safe seat in Quebec City. Mr. Couillard shuffled his cabinet after the by-election "to no effect, zero," Mr. Léger said.


https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebec-liberal-party-slips-as-caq-surges-less-than-a-year-before-election-poll/article36758953/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember on election night in 2014;
The CBC went to François Legault concession speech, I will admit I wasn't overly interested till he looked directly the camera and switched the English.

He spoke directly to the Anglophone voters who make up the base of the QLP and essentially told them his party was going to embrace all the folks of Quebec.

A party that can reach the soft base of the PQ and the soft base of the QLP and somehow hold it together can govern for a long time much like the Union Nationale did.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
I remember on election night in 2014;
The CBC went to François Legault concession speech, I will admit I wasn't overly interested till he looked directly the camera and switched the English.

He spoke directly to the Anglophone voters who make up the base of the QLP and essentially told them his party was going to embrace all the folks of Quebec.

A party that can reach the soft base of the PQ and the soft base of the QLP and somehow hold it together can govern for a long time much like the Union Nationale did.



I'm not really sure why the quebec liberals seem to be losing there grip on quebec ? but they have been in power a while minus the short period the PQ was in power . there is often a desire for change after a while

and perhaps the CAQ could be a lesson for other opposition parties , you have to expand your base and be an opposition for everyone ( who opposes the government )not just hard core loyalists .

the federal conservatives should take note , the reality is there not just a conservative opposition but Canada's official opposition . they have an opportunity to expand there base and focus on issues they might not traditionally focus on . they don't have to just focus on conservative issues , they can go after trudeau on any number of fronts
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