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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:14 pm    Post subject: Trunp Effect hits the NFL Reply with quote

This is amazing. You may not know, but the crowds are not coming out for NFL football. The internet has pictures circulating of the empty seats durng games this weekend. Some of them appear close to half empty. It's like only the season's ticket-holders have shown up.

The reason? The protesting players refusing to stand for the national anthem as a form of support for Black Lives Matter.

I heard some broadcasters talking about what it cost them to take the family to a football game if you include all the bells and whistles. The total was approaching $1000. There must be cheaper ways to see a regular season top football game, but at the prevailing ticket prices, concession prices, and souvenir prices, you can see how taking four people could cost more than a 50" flat screen TV. So it's easy to pass up a football game.

Trump has given voice to the common sentiments of his base, and all the rest has happened spontaneously. He has re-framed the meaning of the protest into one of respect for the flag and love of country. The players have been losing respect ever since.

Trump effect hits the NFL -- Teams with more protesters were more likely to lose
John Lott By John R. Lott, Fox News

Sunday brought a lot of controversy, with numerous NFL players kneeling during the national anthem. But it was also an interesting day for football, with a lot of big upsets. And President Trump may have played a role. The teams with the most players kneeling or sitting during the anthem were more likely to lose. This also includes teams that stayed in their locker rooms. [....]

There's lots of examples in the full article. The major exception -- the Seattle Seahawks.

I think this is an amazing display of cultural power at work. I wonder -- could Madonna have done this, in her prime? Or Lady Gaga today?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trump effect? Ah yes...Fox news.

Well, sorry to burst their (yours?) bubble but the trump effect is minimal.
Trump is right, ratings are down but there are myriad reasons why, and he is the least of them.

One of the main ones is younger gen's are cutting the cord. No cable, no games. The NFL isnt the only one w this problem.

Its the game that can dictate the numbers (which are never encompassing all the eyeballs) insofar as weak vs weak teams. Who wants to watch lousy teams?

Thursday night game last week. Viewership up 38% ...whaa....? Noooo...Fox , whats happening? Oh yeah, much better teams vs last year, so good...stay tuned...lousy game/teams....tune out.

That $1000 those broadcasters you heard? Well....naw too.

Avg cost of a game for four is $503. Nice try though. Was it on Fox too ?

Lots of tickets left for the San Fran game...at $14 per it would seem a long way from a $1000.

Funny, whoever thinks the NFL ratings drop is primarily due to Trump fails in the long run since NASCAR is way down too. One may think, and are probably correct , that NASCAR is trump supporters so how does this work now?

It doesnt. There are may reasons on top of Trump that are the cause.

ETA: dont forget that much of Trumps shitting on the NFL is due to him suing (and losing) the NFL and he knew/knows he would never be allowed in as an owner. Hell , Johnny Bassett knew that a long time ago and called Trump out on it, letting him know he (Trump) was a bully and an idiot.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With respect, I think you are denying reality.

... Shots of the stadium, like the one above, made clear that attendance was dismal for the primetime game. Despite claims that attendance was over 70,000, anyone with eyes could see that the stadium was largely empty, with even some of the best seats in the lower bowl left untaken.

As SFGate noted, tickets were available on secondary markets for just $14 — about the price of a beer and hot dog inside the stadium. And still, few people found the time to support the Niners in person.

People on the internet took notice, inspiring headlines including "The 49ers and Rams Played a Great Game in Front of an Empty Stadium" at The Big Lead and "It Appears Not Many People are Physically at the Rams-49ers Thursday Night Game" from Sports Illustrated.

The picture included in the article illustrates the point.

And I can't resist: The average cost for four to go to a game is $500+. I would imagine you can get a big flat screen TV in San Francisco for that.


It's the same with the senators that are withdrawing from politics rather than go into a primary battle that they know they are going to lose. Why? Because people are lining up behind Trump's agenda.

Not the metrosexuals in big cities, not the campus activists, not the Wall Street bankers, not the single mothers on the mooch, but these are not the mainstream. All over America, ordinary people are pleasantly surprised by the Trump presidency and are supporting him.

The plain fact is that there is no opposition politician that they trust as much as they trust Trump. Am I wrong? Or is TC?
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