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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:05 pm    Post subject: Excerpt from Trump's speech to the Saudis ... Wow! Reply with quote

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.... With God’s help, this summit will mark the beginning of the end for those who practice terror and spread its vile creed. At the same time, we pray this special gathering may someday be remembered as the beginning of peace in the Middle East—and maybe, even all over the world.

But this future can only be achieved through defeating terrorism and the ideology that drives it.

Few nations have been spared its violent reach.

America has suffered repeated barbaric attacks—from the atrocities of September 11th to the devastation of the Boston Bombing, to the horrible killings in San Bernardino and Orlando.

The nations of Europe have also endured unspeakable horror. So too have the nations of Africa and even South America. India, Russia, China and Australia have been victims.

But, in sheer numbers, the deadliest toll has been exacted on the innocent people of Arab, Muslim and Middle Eastern nations. They have borne the brunt of the killings and the worst of the destruction in this wave of fanatical violence.

Some estimates hold that more than 95 percent of the victims of terrorism are themselves Muslim.

We now face a humanitarian and security disaster in this region that is spreading across the planet. It is a tragedy of epic proportions. No description of the suffering and depravity can begin to capture its full measure.

The true toll of ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and so many others, must be counted not only in the number of dead. It must also be counted in generations of vanished dreams.

The Middle East is rich with natural beauty, vibrant cultures, and massive amounts of historic treasures. It should increasingly become one of the great global centers of commerce and opportunity.

This region should not be a place from which refugees flee, but to which newcomers flock.

Saudi Arabia is home to the holiest sites in one of the world’s great faiths. Each year millions of Muslims come from around the world to Saudi Arabia to take part in the Hajj. In addition to ancient wonders, this country is also home to modern ones—including soaring achievements in architecture.

Egypt was a thriving center of learning and achievement thousands of years before other parts of the world. The wonders of Giza, Luxor and Alexandria are proud monuments to that ancient heritage.

All over the world, people dream of walking through the ruins of Petra in Jordan. Iraq was the cradle of civilization and is a land of natural beauty. And the United Arab Emirates has reached incredible heights with glass and steel, and turned earth and water into spectacular works of art.

The entire region is at the center of the key shipping lanes of the Suez Canal, the Red Sea, and the Straits of Hormuz. The potential of this region has never been greater. 65 percent of its population is under the age of 30. Like all young men and women, they seek great futures to build, great national projects to join, and a place for their families to call home.

But this untapped potential, this tremendous cause for optimism, is held at bay by bloodshed and terror. There can be no coexistence with this violence. There can be no tolerating it, no accepting it, no excusing it, and no ignoring it.

Every time a terrorist murders an innocent person, and falsely invokes the name of God, it should be an insult to every person of faith.

Terrorists do not worship God, they worship death.

If we do not act against this organized terror, then we know what will happen. Terrorism’s devastation of life will continue to spread. Peaceful societies will become engulfed by violence. And the futures of many generations will be sadly squandered.

If we do not stand in uniform condemnation of this killing—then not only will we be judged by our people, not only will we be judged by history, but we will be judged by God.

This is not a battle between different faiths, different sects, or different civilizations.

This is a battle between barbaric criminals who seek to obliterate human life, and decent people of all religions who seek to protect it.

This is a battle between Good and Evil.

When we see the scenes of destruction in the wake of terror, we see no signs that those murdered were Jewish or Christian, Shia or Sunni. When we look upon the streams of innocent blood soaked into the ancient ground, we cannot see the faith or sect or tribe of the victims—we see only that they were Children of God whose deaths are an insult to all that is holy.

But we can only overcome this evil if the forces of good are united and strong—and if everyone in this room does their fair share and fulfills their part of the burden.

Terrorism has spread across the world. But the path to peace begins right here, on this ancient soil, in this sacred land.

America is prepared to stand with you—in pursuit of shared interests and common security.

But the nations of the Middle East cannot wait for American power to crush this enemy for them. The nations of the Middle East will have to decide what kind of future they want for themselves, for their countries, and for their children.

It is a choice between two futures—and it is a choice America CANNOT make for you.

A better future is only possible if your nations drive out the terrorists and extremists. Drive. Them. Out.

DRIVE THEM OUT of your places of worship.

DRIVE THEM OUT of your communities.

DRIVE THEM OUT of your holy land, and

DRIVE THEM OUT OF THIS EARTH.

For our part, America is committed to adjusting our strategies to meet evolving threats and new facts. We will discard those strategies that have not worked—and will apply new approaches informed by experience and judgment. We are adopting a Principled Realism, rooted in common values and shared interests.

Our friends will never question our support, and our enemies will never doubt our determination. Our partnerships will advance security through stability, not through radical disruption. We will make decisions based on real-world outcomes – not inflexible ideology. We will be guided by the lessons of experience, not the confines of rigid thinking. And, wherever possible, we will seek gradual reforms – not sudden intervention.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/.....transcript


It sounds like a very aggressive speech to be making on Saudi soil. It sounds like Trump is asking Moslems to choose a side for a battle that is yet to come.

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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Trump's trip actually a tremendous step forward? It's too early to tell, but I had no idea of what was involved. First, there was business with the Saudi's, Both sides seem receptive, attentive, and respectful of each other. Trump put it right out there -- they are fundamentally responsible for handling radical Islamists. The USA and NATO is willing to help.

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Donald Trump says Muslim countries must take the lead in fighting extremism

Trump: Terrorists do not worship god, they worship death
Ben Farmer, defence correspondent, in riyadh
21 MAY 2017 • 10:21AM

President Donald Trump called on Middle Eastern leaders to combat a "crisis of Islamic extremism" emanating from the region, casting the fight against terrorism as a "battle between good and evil," not a clash between the West and Islam.

Trump's address Sunday was the centerpiece of his two-day visit to Saudi Arabia, his first stop overseas as president. During a meeting of more than 50 Arab and Muslim leaders, he sought to chart a new course for America's role in the region, one aimed squarely on rooting out terrorism, with less focus on promoting human rights and democratic reforms.

"We are not here to lecture - we are not here to tell other people how to live, what to do, who to be, or how to worship," Trump said, speaking in an ornate, multi-chandeliered room. "Instead, we are here to offer partnership - based on shared interests and values - to pursue a better future for us all."

Even as the president pledged to work alongside Middle Eastern nations, he put the onus for combatting terrorism on the region. Bellowing into the microphone, he implored Muslim leaders to aggressively fight extremists: "Drive them out of your places of worship. Drive them out of your communities."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....di-speech/


Then they signed a big contract for military supplies, $30 or $40 billion a year for 10 years.

Trump is, as always, kind of wooden and oafish, but he hires excellent people. The speech he read in a flat monotone, was actually quite soaring at points. It laid out the stakes, peace vrs a nasty war where terror is a major tactic.

It was delivered at a meeting of the Council of Moslem Nations, assembled to hear and react to Trump. It' is a big deal, Moslem leaders from all the major Moslem nation were there -- except Iran. Fifty something countries. Some kind of document was signed by the Saudi king and Trump. The assembled leaders -- actual heads of state -- seemed to be react to the speech with deep thought. There were no challenges or protests. Then the Secretary of State took a session, and he is very verbally adept, very intelligent, and very serious. This is a guy you can cut a deal with.

I get most of this from British sources, but it is likely that Trump is possibly scoring a great diplomatic success.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This trip is petering out. Nobody wants to see this president meeting this pope.

But it seems to me that everything has changed ... at least there is a recalculation going on in recognition that the Obama era is over. America is going back to supporting the Sunnis. Sure, the Saudis were ecstatic -- they were the chief victims of Obama's change in direction. And of course, the Iranians will claim to be being double-crossed. But how are the other nations to play it? The key question -- will they drive terrorism out? Will they refuse to give it shelter?

That will be the test. In the meantime, Drudge is reporting that Trump's favourable ratings are now at 48%.
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