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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:03 pm    Post subject: President Trump fires the head of the FBI! Reply with quote

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President Trump Fires FBI Director James Comey
by Tyler Durden
May 9, 2017 5:50 PM

The initially amicable, then increasingly more controversial, contentious and, finally, rancorous relationship between President Donald Trump and FBI Director James Comey has just concluded with the utterance of two of Trump's favorite words: 'You're fired."

According to a statement issued by the White House, the firing of Comey comes at the recommendation of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Below is the full statement from the White House:

Today, President Donald J. Trump informed FBI Director James Comey that he has been terminated and removed from office. President Trump acted based on the clear recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

"The FBI is one of our Nation's most cherished and respected institutions and today will mark a new beginning for our crown jewel of law enforcement," said President Trump.

A search for a new permanent FBI Director will begin immediately.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/.....ames-comey
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well sure .

Who wouldnt want to get rid of an enemy that is investigating you ?

Comey screwed Hillary and gave the Donald the job, in some large degree or another.

Incompetence and brazen stupidity is a positive attribute in the Trump administration.

And...Russia.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well sure ... why would you use your head, or look at the evidence, instead of reiterating all of Hillary's talking points? Was it Comey who persuaded Hillary that a private secret server was the way to go?

Just for the record, Donald Trump has far less to fear from the FBI than Loretta Lynch, who met the spouse of the democratic presidential nominee on the tarmac in Pheonix.

He also has far less to fear than Hilary Clinton, who flouted US security regulations in order to further the family business -- selling influence. Or Huma Abedin either. \

Comey was never an enemy of Trump.

All of the major deep state officials in charge of protecting the national security have conceded that there is no evidence that Trump was in cahoots with the Russians. None.

Personally, I think Comey was in a tough spot. He had to know that Holder was crooked, particularly for his refusal to investigate the IRS scandal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

That is multiples of Watergate in terms of seriousness.

Or how about the role that Holder played in the gun-running episode, now nicknamed Fast and Furious?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

But he couldn't do it because of politics, even though it was eating away at the morale of the FBI's agents. He had to go through the motions without doing a real investigation of Hillary, even though the agents assigned to the case knew very well that something stinky was going on.


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the folks at CNN went nuts , liberals don't seem to be taking this well


trump often does things differently and this is another example of that
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was surprised that nothing was happening about Comey, one way or another.

Trump seems to be acting on the report filed by the deputy Attorney-General, a career public servant who is generally respected as a fair-minded professional. But it didn't take long once he had that report in his hand. The report was devastating. The substance of the criticism was that the director stepped out of his role as an investigator into the role of prosecutor.

The Obama administration politicized the Justice Department, which includes the FBI. Eric Holder allowed guns to 'walk' to the hands of Mexican cartel players without penalty, but the most obvious case is that no investigation took place of the IRS and its scheme to politically harass Tea Party activists. The Hillary Clinton investigation was only the last in a number of cases where the Justice Department played a political role.

The result is that morale within the FBI is low because the actual investigators are so disappointed that their work was set aside by their superiors.

The replacement will tell us a lot about Trump's determination to ''drain the swamp''. Based on what I have seen, Trey Gowdy would be an excellent choice as the next director of the FBI. He's a prosecutor who really knows the law and how investigations should go, and who is now a sitting member of the House of Representatives.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Just wow.

Fired due to a letter....Naw, I wanted to since he was so close to the Russia info.

One disaster after another. The intelligence community must be pissed and the US getting help has to have suffered a serious blow.

Trump is an idiot of epic porportions.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except ... he seems to be winning. Comey is fired, and the shock waves have revealed some interesting things. Just as Hillary had come out from under a rock to attack Comey as the villain who cost her the presidency, Trump fired him! It was embarassing because the Greek chorus that follows her had set up to echo her comments. They went from detractors to supporters of Comey so fast that the term 'whiplash' comes to mind.

Now we are being treated to another round of speculation, this time about what is it about the Russian investigation that has rattled Trump to the extent that he'd fire Comey to stop it.

Everything about this is innuendo, which goes back to a joke Trump made where he suggested that Putin would likely be a source of the lost emails that disappeared with Hillary's server. It is based on the sketchiest of events. The FBI has 100 agents on this case, and if they've found anything, we'd probably have had an indication.

The media don't understand. Trump is not a trained politician. He muses out loud some times, he uses the tools of the promoter in the way he talks. He's a salesman trying to make a sale, not a politician trying to skate past an issue. The media thinks they have caught him in lies, and go on a witch-hunt for his tax returns. Fishing missions, not news. Their problem is his supporters understand him, because they talk that way themselves -- or at least not in the cautious, pre-parsed way politicians talk. So for them, Trump has not lied about his reasons to fire Comey. it seems that he was looking for an opportunity, and Rosenstein's report came over his desk. So he just fired him. And he mentioned the Russian investigation ... that he knew, if the FBI didn't, that there was no connection between him and the Russians. So he wants it cleaned up because it is providing an excuse for 'the resistance' being formed against his policies.

There's nothing scandalous about any of that.

TC just picks up and repeats the themes of the Democrat media. He doesn't understand that the state is NOT something run for the convenience of civil servants. The real problem is the politicization of the intelligence services and that has to be cleaned up. They can't be allowed to play the role of a Praetorian Guard if Americans are to keep their democracy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The media don't understand. Trump is not a trained politician.

Considering they are smarter than Trump and understand the whole picture better....yea...they do understand.
It is becoming more clear that Trump ahsnt a clue what he is doing.

Getting fake news in his briefings....on purpose, to enrage him for something dumb or another to not grasping the security of what he is told, thus he is now told less as he is a liability.
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Their problem is his supporters understand him, because they talk that way themselves -- or at least not in the cautious, pre-parsed way politicians talk. So for them, Trump has not lied about his reasons to fire Comey.

Then his supporters are as dumb as he is

They understand him? They couldnt, becuase he doesnt understand what he does half the time.

Maybe those who take glee, those redneck brain dead idiots who only wanted the shake up without any of the resultant damage (of course not that THEY could ever understand the fallout).
Much like Ford here in TO, the joy of his win was centred around the unprovable fact that the elites (who the F are they anyway) were pissed off. The fact that pretty much nothing was accomplished proves that fact to be true.

As always, you provide a laugh , only a really lame ass one this time in trying to categorize me.


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump must surely be going mad.

Maybe if he learned to shut his mo.....naw, never could do it.

Textbook narcissist .
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider this: if Comey knew of the emails on Rich's laptop, and let the investigation of the Trump-Russian relationship go ahead without bringing that laptop into the FBI labs, he is actively playing a political role.

Obama didn't mind issuing dog-whistles and influencing the DoJ, as long as he could keep his fingerprints off it.

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]Under the Obama Precedent, No Trump Obstruction of Justice
by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY May 17, 2017 11:30 AM @ANDREWCMCCARTHY

Up until now, veiled orders have not been thought the equivalent of obstruction.

On April 10, 2016, President Obama publicly stated that Hillary Clinton had shown “carelessness” in using a private e-mail server to handle classified information, but he insisted that she had not intended to endanger national security (which is not an element of the relevant criminal statute). The president acknowledged that classified information had been transmitted via Secretary Clinton’s server, but he suggested that, in the greater scheme of things, its importance had been vastly overstated.

On July 5, 2016, FBI director James Comey publicly stated that Clinton had been “extremely careless” in using a private email server to handle classified information, but he insisted that she had not intended to endanger national security (which is not an element of the relevant criminal statute). The director acknowledged that classified information had been transmitted via Secretary Clinton’s server, but he suggested that, in the greater scheme of things, it was just a small percentage of the emails involved.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/.....mey-russia


If you want to put the time-line together, Obama said that on April 10 2016 and Comey made his announcement of the clearing of Hillary on July 5, 2016. He justified himself because he could not find intent, just as Obama had suggested.

By contrast, Trump may have been just expressing his own preference. Is it odd that he should want to clear up this Russian nonsense as quickly as he can?

In any case, the Obama case is the more serious because Comey responded to the 'hint', whereas in Trump's case, Comey did nothing, and he may have ignored the Seth Rich angle on the DNC leaks, thus actively helping Hillary by interfering with the investigation.

But this isn't a moment when logic rules. This is a time where the pro-Democrat side is closing down speeches, and fomenting violence in a coordinated attempt to impeach the elected president. The Russian allegations rest on suspicions, not facts. It's as if the news channels of Gotham have been hijacked by some new, crazy Joker.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wont even attempt to discuss this with you.

It is no secret that even Reps wont go on camera anymore becuase what they say is countered b y the Orange guy in mere minutes. So the rats are fleeing the ship

What does that tell you?

We both know Comeys actions sunk the good ship Hillary. Its why she ultimately lost (That doesnt count the fact she sucked on her campaign-she did. She lost)

Obama is out of office now since January 2017. FYI .
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edit to add.

No I do not think he will be impeached.

Step down is more a possibility but with that ego who knows.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any idea of what the charge will be? And what actual evidence it's based on?

Probably not. It probably is for the best ... when you have nothing to say, then say nothing.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
Do you have any idea of what the charge will be?

What charges are you talking about?

Says right up there ^ I dont think he will be impeached.

But he is winning.....at failing. So ya know....he has that going for him.

Should be fun to watch him on his first visit overseas. Wont take long before he has some dumb statement/gaffe of epic porportions
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Objectively, Donald Trump’s presidency is flailing. Regardless of what you feel about his core politics and policy, the Trump administration is caught in a cycle of scandals of its own creation. Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, with the possible intent of quashing an FBI probe into his campaign. He gave away intelligence secrets to the Russians, potentially endangering a foreign agent embedded with ISIS. (And wait ... there’s more!)

The start of the Trump administration has been riddled with more scandals than any presidency of recent memory. And yet Trump still enjoys high support among his base: 85 percent of Trump voters approve of the job he’s doing, a recent Morning Consult poll found.

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7 psychological concepts that explain the Trump era of politics

If you’re looking for an explanation for why Trump’s support is so solid among his base — and why it will remain so stubbornly high — read this piece by the Associated Press, where the reporters asked Trump supporters how they’re handling the wave of scandals.


This one is particularly telling ...
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“I tuned it out,” Michele Velardi, a 44-year-old in Staten Island, told the AP of the recent news. “I didn’t want to be depressed. I don’t want to feel that he’s not doing what he said, so I just choose to not listen.”

This line is extremely revealing. It shows a psychological tendency we’re all susceptible to. That tendency is called “motivated ignorance,” and it’s an extremely powerful force in American politics. It’s also one of the keys to understanding why political discourse can be so irrational.

Truth is, it goes both ways.

Left wingers/right wingers, those on the outer fringe are most like this. The rest of us , for the most part, dont appear to have the same issue with exceptions.



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/18/15659394/trump-supporters-motivated-ignorance
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