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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:47 pm    Post subject: did the Obama administration spy on trump team ? Reply with quote

( this is starting to make trump crazy claims on twitter not that crazy at all , if the evidence is really there as the congressman says it is )


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Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says



James Rosen

By James Rosen
·Published March 23, 2017
· FoxNews.com


Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week, a source told Fox News.

Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.

The FBI hasn’t been responsive to the House Intelligence Committee’s request for documents, but the National Security Agency is expected to produce documents to the committee by Friday. The NSA document production is expected to produce more intelligence than Nunes has so far seen or described – including what one source described as a potential “smoking gun” establishing the spying.

Some time will be needed to properly assess the materials, with the likely result being that congressional investigators and attorneys won’t have a solid handle on the contents of the documents – and their implications – until next week.

Because Nunes’s intelligence came from multiple sources during a span of several weeks, and he has not shared the actual materials with his committee colleagues, he will be the only member of the panel in a position to know whether the NSA has turned over some or all of the intelligence he is citing. However, Fox News was told Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., had been briefed on the basic contents of the intelligence described by Nunes.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo is also sympathetic to the effort to determine, with documentary evidence, the extent of any alleged Obama administration spying on the Trump team, sources said.

At a dramatic Wednesday news conference, Nunes claimed to have seen evidence that members of the Trump transition team, possibly including the president-elect, were subjected to “incidental surveillance” collection that Nunes characterized as legal but troubling.

“What I've read bothers me,” he told reporters, “and I think it should bother the president himself, and his team because I think some of it seems to be inappropriate.”

Schiff blasted Nunes for not coming first to the Intelligence Committee with the information.

"If accurate, this information should have been shared with members of the committee, but it has not been," Schiff said in a Wednesday statement.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....-says.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this article is only technically right. True, the journalists haven't been able to identify sources and look at the actual evidence. In that sense, there is no 'smoking gun'.

The Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee can -- and did -- ask for the truth and the spooks showed him the evidence. He chose to reveal the outlines of what he was told in this session. Trump and his whole transition team were under surveillance from some time in October. There was no connection with Russia. The central figures in the campaign and the transition were 'unmasked' and their identities and activities were well known in the intelligence community.

The significance of this -- if accepted -- is that the next question is -- who did the unmasking? Who authorized it? There has to be a paper trail. And the release of a masked identity of an American citizen is a felony carrying a penalty of up to 10 years in jail.

In other words, what began as an initiative to embarass the Trump administration has now backfired. The initiative is now with the Trump people, and their agents, and whoever did the unmasking is probably worrying about a possible 10-year sentence. And that creates the possibility of wider revelations, possibly involving White House staff.

This is way bigger than Watergate! Watergate was a rogue operation run by ex-CIA operatives. With Elsberg and everything else, it was small compared to using the resources of government's security apparatus against a political opponent! And the Democrats are on the defensive!

The paperwork certifies the unmasking act and makes someone responsible. That person is in a terrible situation if this inquiry goes any further. That's what significant in these new revelations have turned everything around. Trump was right. Now he can find out for himself who OK'd these leaks.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bob Woodward: Obama officials possibly facing criminal charges for unmasking scheme

By DANIEL CHAITIN (@DANIELCHAITIN7) • 3/22/17 9:07 PM

The Washington Post's Bob Woodward warned on Wednesday that there are people from the Obama administration who could be facing criminal charges for unmasking the names of Trump transition team members from surveillance of foreign officials.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., said earlier that he had briefed Trump on new information, unrelated to an investigation into Russian activities, that suggested that several members of Trump's transition team and perhaps Trump himself had their identities "unmasked" after their communications were intercepted by U.S. intelligence officials.

The revelation is notable because identities of Americans are generally supposed to remain "masked" if American communications are swept up during surveillance of foreign individuals. [....]
http://www.washingtonexaminer......le/2618185
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was Susan Rice who authorized the 'unmasking' of Trump appointees and advisors, as part of their attempts to get Trump impeached!

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Who is Susan Rice?

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Susan Elizabeth Rice (born November 17, 1964) is a U.S. public servant who served as the 24th United States National Security Advisor from 2013 to 2017. She was formerly a U.S. diplomat, Brookings Institution fellow, and U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. She served on the staff of the National Security Council and as Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs during President Bill Clinton's second term. She was confirmed as UN ambassador by the U.S. Senate by unanimous consent on January 22, 2009.

Rice's name was mentioned as a possible replacement for retiring Secretary of State Hillary Clinton after President Barack Obama's re-election in 2012,[1][2] but on December 13, 2012, following ongoing controversy related to the 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, she announced that she was withdrawing her name from consideration, saying that if nominated "the confirmation process would be lengthy, disruptive, and costly".[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rice


In other words, she is a highly partisan Democrat, one who went out to face the Sunday morning talk shows attempting to cover up the incompetence of Benghazi, where the American ambassador was brutalized and killed by Moslem radicals.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Susan Rice requested to unmask names of Trump transition officials, sources say


By Adam Housley
·Published April 03, 2017
· FoxNews.com



Multiple sources tell Fox News that Susan Rice, former national security adviser under then-President Barack Obama, requested to unmask the names of Trump transition officials caught up in surveillance.

The unmasked names, of people associated with Donald Trump, were then sent to all those at the National Security Council, some at the Defense Department, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and then-CIA Director John Brennan – essentially, the officials at the top, including former Rice deputy Ben Rhodes.

The names were part of incidental electronic surveillance of candidate and President-elect Trump and people close to him, including family members, for up to a year before he took office.


U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice addresses Libya violence at the White House Monday. (Fox News Photo)
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Rice was ambassador to the UN when she went on Sunday news shows to say the Benghazi attack was prompted by a video. (Fox News Photo)


When names of Americans are incidentally collected, they are supposed to be masked, meaning the name or names are redacted from reports – whether it is international or domestic collection, unless it is an issue of national security, crime or if their security is threatened in any way. There are loopholes and ways to unmask through backchannels, but Americans are supposed to be protected from incidental collection. Sources told Fox News that in this case, they were not.

This comes in the wake of Evelyn Farkas’ television interview last month in which the former Obama deputy secretary of defense said in part: “I was urging my former colleagues and, frankly speaking, the people on the Hill – it was more actually aimed at telling the Hill people, get as much information as you can, get as much intelligence as you can, before President Obama leaves the administration.”

Meanwhile, Fox News also is told that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes knew about unmasking and leaking back in January, well before President Trump’s tweet in March alleging wiretapping.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif. is pursued by reporters as he arrives for a weekly meeting of the Republican Conference with House Speaker Paul Ryan and the GOP leadership, Tuesday, March 28, 2017, on Capitol Hill in Washington. Nunes is facing growing calls to step away from the panel's Russia investigation as revelations about a secret source meeting on White House grounds raised questions about his and the panel's independence. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
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Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., says he has seen incidental surveillance reports he fears were used for political reasons. (The Associated Press)


Nunes has faced criticism from Democrats for viewing pertinent documents on White House grounds and announcing their contents to the press. But sources said “the intelligence agencies slow-rolled Nunes. He could have seen the logs at other places besides the White House SCIF [secure facility], but it had already been a few weeks. So he went to the White House because he could protect his sources and he could get to the logs.”

As the Obama administration left office, it also approved new rules that gave the NSA much broader powers by relaxing the rules about sharing intercepted personal communications and the ability to share those with 16 other intelligence agencies.

Rice is no stranger to controversy. As the U.S. Ambassador to the UN, she appeared on several Sunday news shows to defend the adminstration's later debunked claim that the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks on a U.S. consulate in Libya was triggered by an Internet video.

Rice also told ABC News in 2014 that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl "served the United States with honor and distinction" and that he "wasn't simply a hostage; he was an American prisoner of war captured on the battlefield."

Bergdahl is currently facing court-martial on charges of desertion and misbehavior before the enemy for allegedly walking off his post in Afghanistan

http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....s-say.html
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe me, if a Republican had done this, it'd be another Watergate. In fact, it is far worse than Watergate. Nixon's crime was covering up a rogue burglary that was bungled in an attempt to get some low-priority intelligence. The hotel was not command central' of the Democrat's campaign. It was just a place to greet donors and out-of-DC supporters.

Now it appears that Obama's gang was spying on their opponents for months before the actual election. If the people running interference on this are any indication -- they try to throw the journalists off the scent without being caught in a transparent lie -- then we can only come to one conclusion. Because, notwithstanding any of the safeguards, the President can order the unmasking of an American citizen, and can order surveillance without oversight. Which means that Susan Rice was almost certainly acting under orders. Susan Rice, as a national security advisor, reports to nobody but the President.

In other words, the spying was conducted by Obama!

This is way bigger than Watergate. There is an equally awful scandal that has been suppressed, involving the use of the IRS to intimidate activists in the Tea Party movement.

Obama's administration is probably the crookedest one in our lifetime.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Susan Rice has changed her story, going from telling PBS that she had no knowledge of any of this to a fallback position, claiming only that she didn't leak any of the material to the media.

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To summarize: At a high level, officials like Susan Rice had names unmasked that would not ordinarily be unmasked. That information was then being pushed widely throughout the intelligence community in unmasked form . . . particularly after Obama, toward the end of his presidency, suddenly — and seemingly apropos of nothing — changed the rules so that all of the intelligence agencies (not just the collecting agencies) could have access to raw intelligence information.

As we know, the community of intelligence agencies leaks like a sieve, and the more access there is to juicy information, the more leaks there are. Meanwhile, former Obama officials and Clinton-campaign advisers, like Farkas, were pushing to get the information transferred from the intelligence community to members of Congress, geometrically increasing the likelihood of intelligence leaks.

By the way, have you noticed that there have been lots of intelligence leaks in the press?

There’s an old saying in the criminal law: The best evidence of a conspiracy is success.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/04/04/ssan-rice-changes-her-story-on-unmasking-of-trump-transition-officals-n2308591?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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20 House Democrats request removal of Devin Nunes from Russia investigation
POSTED AT 9:01 PM ON APRIL 4, 2017 BY JOHN SEXTON

A group of House Democrats led by Rep. Gerry Connolly sent a letter to Speaker Paul Ryan Tuesday asking for the recusal of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes from the ongoing investigation into Russian influence on the 2016 election. The letter is signed by 20 House Democrats from the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

“We respectfully write to request that Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes be recused from the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and potential Russian ties to the Trump campaign,” the letter states.

After walking through the events of the past two weeks, including Rep. Nunes’ visit to the White House grounds to view documents and subsequent refusal to share the information with Democrats on the committee, the letter cites statements by Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham attacking Nunes.
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....stigation/


Nunes is the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and he has known about these allegations for a couple of weeks before he went public. Even so, he was cautious about what he revealed. The New York Times was sitting on the story.

Now he's being attacked. More and more, it is looking like Obama was directly involved.
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