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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: How we got into Kyoto - Liberals Screwed US Reply with quote

How we got into Kyoto
From Saturday's Globe and Mail

Well before Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse-gas emissions in April of 1998, skeptics doubted that its ambitious targets were reachable. Those critics were often dismissed as pessimistic cranks. Now comes insider testimony that the federal government itself strongly suspected that the targets to reduce emissions to 6 per cent below 1990 levels during the period from 2008 to 2012 were unreachable. It signed anyway.

Jean Chretien's number one advisor, Eddie Goldenberg spilled the beans. The Liberals signed Kyoto but they had no intention of fulfilling the bargain. It was just another piece of Liberal larceny.( I SEE A CONSERVATIVE ELEECTION AD)

The article goes on to say that Canada will face sanctions and duties on exports(in trading with other Kyoto signataries) if they we do not reach their goals. Luckily 90% of our exports are America bound.

How do we get out of this deal. Can we pull out of it somehow.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Liberals screwed us Reply with quote

I blame the Liberals for this mess. We could have reached the targets if the Liberals had had the nerve to lose a few votes from business. We only had to reduce it six percent. Since then emissions rose 25%+. This is even harder to overcome. There is nothing we can do to reach Kyoto now. :(

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Former adviser admits Chretien government was not ready to implement Kyoto
February 22, 2007 - 14:56


OTTAWA (CP) - The previous Liberal government ratified the Kyoto Protocol knowing Canada wasn't ready to take the tough measures needed to address climate change and would likely miss the deadlines for reducing emissions, says a top adviser to former prime minister Jean Chretien.

Eddie Goldenberg says the Chretien government nevertheless signed and ratified the international pact because it was an "absolutely necessary" first step in galvanizing public opinion to meet the global warming challenge.

Goldenberg was a senior adviser to Chretien when the Liberal government signed onto Kyoto in 1998 and formally ratified it in 2002.

He said Thursday that public opinion at the time favoured ratification "in the abstract," despite strident opposition by some provinces, the business community and the Conservative party's predecessor, the Canadian Alliance. But he doubted Canadians were ready for the concrete measures the government would have had to take to meet the Kyoto targets.

"Nor was the government itself even ready at the time with what had to be done," he said in a speech to the Canadian Club of London, Ont., the text of which was provided to The Canadian Press.

"The Kyoto targets were extremely ambitious and it was very possible that short term deadlines would, at the end of the day, have to be extended."

Still, Goldenberg said, the government forged ahead because "we knew that signing and ratifying Kyoto when we did was absolutely necessary to prepare public opinion for the actions that would have to come in the future to address climate change.

"I believe that the signing of the Kyoto accord in the face of vigorous opposition served to galvanize public opinion to bring it to where it is today in Canada. In the long run, that will be far more important than whether we can meet all the short term deadlines in the accord."

Goldenberg said Canadians are now ready for action that would have been "unacceptable" a few years ago, warning that it will entail "big costs in dollars for business, the consumer and for the taxpayer."

He advised the business community to be "visionary" instead of obstructionist. Specifically, he said Alberta's energy industry, which would be hit hardest by emission reductions, should stop resisting and start developing the green technologies that would allow for more sustainable development of the oil sands.

Still, Goldenberg chided Liberal MP Mark Holland for his "unfortunate comment" about shutting down the oil sands.

"It might be easy political rhetoric but it ignores one fundamental reality, namely that Canada for a long time to come will need oil sands production and lots of it. Our economy and our standard of living depend on it."

Goldenberg also had some unsolicited advice for Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservative government as it prepares to bring down its second budget on Mar. 19.

He said the federal government needs to invest in three priorities - climate change, infrastructure and higher learning - none of which will come cheap. Hence, Goldenberg said the government needs to ask if it can continue to afford further personal tax cuts, debt repayments and unconditional cash transfers to the provinces.

"I submit that the answer is no, we can't continue down that road unless we want to go back into deficit."
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