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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: CBC post blames white christians for mass shootings Reply with quote

( this has to be one of the more bizarre things the cbc opinion section has published , could you imagine a similar article that attacked any other race or religion actually being published on the CBC website ? I highly doubt it would ever make it to print )

Conservative MP wants column blaming 'white Christians' for shootings deleted

Garnett Genuis writes CBC ombudsman calling Neil Macdonald’s piece ‘shockingly offensive’

BJ Siekierski

Tuesday, February 7th, 2017

Conservative MP Garnett Genuis wants the CBC to delete a January 30 column by Neil Macdonald that argued white, Christian men have been responsible for the majority of Canada’s mass killings.

In a letter sent to CBC Ombudsman Esther Enkin on Monday, which the Alberta MP asks to have registered as a formal complaint, Genuis goes through the biographies of a list of nine killers Macondald used to make his case.

“Only two, it seems, even grew up in families that ever attended church, and none of the nine appear to have been self-identifying or practicing Christians,” Genuis writes.

“None of them appear to have been inclined to their notorious acts because of their faith, or to have even claimed their faith as a motivation, and this article itself contained no support for the ridiculous claim that mass murderers in Canada are ‘usually Christian’.”

But arguably more “offensive and outrageous” than Macdonald’s column, Genuis writes, were the accompanying tweets by CBC personnel.

CBC’s The National tweeted, for example, that an “inconvenient truth is that white, Christian men are Canada’s mass shooters.”

“This is an entirely false and deeply offensive statement that, were it to mention any other religious community, would be recognized immediately as plain bigotry,” Genuis writes.

He adds that he has challenged Macdonald on Twitter, asking whether he thinks it’s absurd to suggest someone is Muslim because they come from an Arabic family or from the Middle East.

Macdonald responded that he would indeed assume someone named Mohammed is Muslim, just as he would assume someone named Cohen was Jewish.

“As our public broadcaster, supported by Canadian tax dollars, the CBC has a special obligation to maintain high standards and avoid spreading offensive content. In this instance, what was published would have immediately been deemed utterly unacceptable and highly offensive were it about any identifiable group other than the one in question,” Genuis writes.

“I request that you register this as a formal complaint, that you conduct a review of this article and the related tweets by CBC personnel, that the offending material be deleted from CBC webpages and social media accounts, and that an appropriate apology be given.”

Genuis’ letter comes a week after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s director of communications, Kate Purchase, called Fox News out publicly for a tweet that falsely identified the Quebec City mosque shooter as someone of Moroccan origin.

Fox subsequently deleted it.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( here is the original article , in case it gets deleted or removed )

Simple truth is Canada's mass shooters are usually white and Canadian-born: Neil Macdonald

In that context, the shooter at the Quebec mosque is entirely unremarkable

By Neil Macdonald, CBC News Posted: Jan 30, 2017 4:59 PM ET| Last Updated: Jan 30, 2017 9:24 PM ET

The shooter, it appears, is Bissonnette. Not an immigrant. Not a Muslim.

Neil Macdonald is an opinion columnist for CBC News, based in Ottawa. Prior to that he was the CBC's Washington correspondent for 12 years, and before that he spent five years reporting from the Middle East. He also had a previous career in newspapers, and speaks English and French fluently, and some Arabic.

For a short, hopeful moment Monday, Trumpian conservatives were clucking and warbling triumphant tweets at one another.

Rumours swirling about the slaughter at the mosque in Quebec City had the shooter yelling "Allahu Akbar," albeit in a strong ​Québécois accent, as he killed and reloaded.

So why wasn't the fake-news liberal mainstream media concentrating on that instead of portraying it as an anti-Muslim hate crime encouraged by President Trump's crackdown on Muslim immigrants? Maybe it was a Shia/Sunni thing: the sort of atrocity that takes place all the time in countries where ISIS operates. Maybe it was Muslim-on-Muslim terror.

Names of arrested

Then came confirmation of the names of the two men arrested shortly after the shooting. One was Alexandre Bissonnette. But the other! The other had a Moroccan name! Mohamed Belkhadir.

Hah! HAH! See, liberals? President Trump was right. He's keeping America safe. Maybe Justin Trudeau could just shut up and stop yammering about diversity and welcoming refugees and learn a thing or two from the new president. Turns out we aren't so safe from foreign terrorists after all, are we?

Maybe we should be barring immigrants from Muslim countries or at least interrogating them before we let them in to ensure they share our Canadian values.

But then the story changed, as stories tend to do when facts begin to emerge.

Belkhadir, it turns out, was a witness, and called the police himself. The suspected shooter is Bissonnette. Not an immigrant. Not a Muslim. Probably a Christian, judging from his name. And, reportedly, a big admirer of Trump.

By then, though, the attack had already been labelled terrorism, which is a difficult description to walk back.

So, the right-wingers suddenly piped down on social media. Some deleted earlier tweets (step right up, Ezra Levant!). Perhaps Bissonnette was just, you know, a bad apple.

In fact, in the pantheon of Canadian mass murderers, Mr. Bissonnette is entirely unremarkable. Just about every single one in our modern history has been a Canadian-born, Canadian citizen, and usually white and Christian, meaning extreme vetting of immigrants from places like Yemen and Iraq wouldn't have done a thing to prevent their predations.

St. Pius X

The first one I covered was the 1975 shooting at St. Pius X High School in Ottawa. The shooter was a student named Robert Poulin. The inquest failed to determine why he bought a shotgun at Giant Tiger, raped and killed his 17-year-old friend, then headed off to school, where he opened fire in hallways and classrooms. Three people died in that case, including the perpetrator. There was no determination of terrorism or any analysis of religious motivation.

That same year, a 16-year-old named Michael Slobodian arrived at Brampton Centennial Secondary School west of Toronto with two rifles in a guitar case. He killed two people, wounded 13, then committed suicide. He left a note explaining he hated school and wanted to kill teachers. Stories from the time made no mention of his religion.

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A scene from the shooting at Montreal's É​cole Polytechnique, perpetrated by Canadian-born Marc Lepine. (Shaney Komulainen/Canadian Press)

Less than a decade later, a white, Christian francophone named Denis Lortie opened fire in the Quebec National Assembly, killing three people and wounding several others. He's free today, having been released on parole more than 20 years ago. Had he been a Muslim, and a terrorist rather than just a mass killer, one suspects he'd still be behind bars.

In 1989, Montreal-born Marc Lépine headed out into a dreadfully cold December night with a Ruger Mini-14 rifle and a knife, intent on hunting and killing as many women as he could. He eventually left 14 women dead at the É​cole Polytechnique in Montreal before killing himself. Authorities concentrated on his extreme misogyny, but, given that his name was Lepine, did not characterize it as terrorism. (Today, no doubt, much would be made of the fact that his father was an Algerian named Gharbi, even though Lepine took his mother's name.)

A few years later, Valery Fabrikant, an associate professor at Concordia University in Montreal, decided to settle his grudges with colleagues using three pistols. He killed four people and now resides in a federal penitentiary. Actually, Fabrikant was different in one respect from other mass shooters in Canada: he was an immigrant — from Belarus. He was not Muslim. The killing was not treated as terrorism.

Bad apples vs. terrorists

In 2006, Kimveer Gill entered Dawson College in Montreal with a Glock, a Beretta carbine and a shotgun and cut down 20 people. He wasn't a very good shot, fortunately, and only one of his victims died. He then killed himself. Police concluded he was mentally ill, and deteriorating fast, when he decided to kill. It was treated as a simple crime, rather than terrorism. Gill had a foreign-sounding name and was from a Sikh family but was born in Canada.

Justin Bourque was born in Canada and home-schooled in a religious Christian family.

In 2014 in Moncton, a man opened fire on several RCMP officers, killing three of them and wounding two others. Security hawks were ready to cry terrorism, but then it turned out the shooter was named Justin Bourque, was born in Canada, was home-schooled in a religious Christian family, talked a lot about the right to bear arms, and harboured a deep suspicion of government and its agents.

That put an end to any talk of terror. Just another bad apple.

The same year, Calgary experienced its worst mass murder: five people stabbed to death at a house party. The killer, a university student and son of a Calgary police veteran, named Matthew de Grood was not deemed a terrorist. He believed in vampires and werewolves. He was found not criminally responsible by reason of insanity. De Grood was a Canadian citizen.

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Bibeau was born in Canada, and therefore a Canadian citizen, but he'd converted to Islam years before the shooting. (RCMP/Handout/Canadian Press)

But then there was the big one. Michael Zehaf Bibeau, a homeless habitual criminal from Quebec, travelled to Ottawa in October 2014, where he shot a soldier dead from behind at the cenotaph before heading up to Parliament Hill, where he was killed by armed security staff.

Bibeau was born in Canada, and therefore a Canadian citizen, but he'd converted to Islam years earlier. The crime shook the nation. Military bases increased their security. The government brought in legislation increasing police powers and curtailing Canadians' civil liberties.

Terror had finally made its debut here. Canada would never be the same.

And now, Alexandre Bissonnette. The question has to be, what further measures to take? And will Donald Trump begin banning white nationalist Christians from Canada?

This column is part of CBC's Opinion section. For more information about this section, please read this editor's blog and our FAQ.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not known to be defenders of free speech , pretty sure I recall the CBC was one of the outlets that pretty much cheered the death of Sun News a few years ago .

I really don't see this article being a " free speech " issue , well the writer is entitled to his own opinions this piece is seriously over the top , and overly offensive to white / Christians in general . to try and come out with such claims without much evidence to back them up , there is virtually no evidence to suggest any of the shooters he mentions were actually avidly involved with the Christian faith and went to church on a regular basis when they were involved in the shootings .

could you imagine the public outrage if someone posted a similar opinion article blaming young black , muslim men for gang and drug related shootings in cities like Toronto or Edmonton ?
it would not of even made it to print , yet alone posted on a site with as massive an audience as the CBC

just when you think the CBC couldn't sink any lower they managed to find a way to do just that
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