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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Syria Reply with quote

With all the discussion over the last few weeks it would be interesting to get a few opinions on the situation.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only luckily stumbled on his thread.

Yeah, I think this is where the Obama bandwagon jumped the shark.

First of all, the biggest reason he said what he did about the 'red line' was to silence domestic critics. I don't think they had any contingency plans about what they would do if the Assad or one of the rebel groups challenged Obama.

Second, they don't know who the 'good guys' in this fight are.

Third, Obama is diminishing the effect of his raid by all this dithering. He has given the Syrians the opportunity to move materiel, and to, prepare themselves in other ways. He has publicly agreed that this will be a little war, only a few weeks, not months. And no American boots on the ground ...

Fourth, 60% of the American public is already opposed to whatever steps Obama is contemplating, but it better not work into a long war.

I have a feeling that Obama cannot afford to lose the 'anti-war' part of his coalition. He will draw up short, perhaps settling for an air attack. It won't be satisfying.

In the meantime, everything from Benghazi, to another Debt Ceiling debate, is on the agenda. Syria is (perhaps) taking the public's mind off things like the IRS scandals.

This president is flirting with impeachment. He had better be careful.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is the beauty of term limits.
During the Democratic primary the folks running will point to their steadfast opposition of the war during this period and the Anti-War masses will be placated.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are forgetting that the anti-war Left and the anti-imperial Libertarians will increasingly find themselves at the same demonstrations, on the same side. There are three years left, if Obama wants to take policy in that direction. Plenty of time for new coalitions to form.

And those aren't the only factions that could join forces, either.
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