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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: The Mulcair Mortgage Issue Reply with quote

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New Democratic Party leader Tom Mulcair and his wife have repeatedly refinanced their home west of Montreal, gradually increasing the debt on the property over a series of 11 mortgages, land records show.

Mulcair’s office will not explain why the couple have loaded more and more financing onto the West Island home they’ve lived in since the early 1980s, saying only that it’s a “private matter.”

It is unclear why Mulcair would need to refinance the modest two-garage home in Beaconsfield so many times, bumping the value of the mortgage from $58,000 to $300,000.

Before he became leader, Mulcair enjoyed a successful and well-paid career as a government lawyer and, later, a cabinet minister in the Quebec National Assembly. His wife, Catherine Pinhas, is a psychologist practicing in Montreal.


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"I really think this is a personal matter. I don't think it's a discussion for public consumption. I really don't," Cullen told reporters. "There has to be a line as parliamentarians, for those of us engaged in public life, maintaining our personal lives as well. I think this is part of the personal."


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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I find so interesting about this story is not that Mulcair has refinanced his home nearly a dozen times, but the vicious attacks on Glen McGregor for reporting it.

I generally agree with Cullen's comments; however the media historically has not.

We saw Vic Toew's divorce documents get splashed all over twitter, with the media referencing "Vicileaks" hundreds of times within article for weeks as a means of making the information very accessible and very public and I hardly saw the same degree of outrage from anyone regarding that.

While I consider both matters to be private, the conditions of an MP's divorce have far less relevance within the political sphere then the financial management of someone who wants to be Prime Minister, yet one was fair game and the other is somehow taboo?

Why?
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw people criticize Ignatieff for his supposed bad parenting to his children after he and his first wife divorced. Danny Williams faced questions and attacks for having heart surgery in the US.

People from parties don't mind criticizing when it's someone else's party but don't like it happening to theirs. The NDP and Liberals have attacked Harper for things he has said as a private citizen but don't like it when past comments of their MPs are brought up.

If people are going to be in the public spotlight on the public dime then then they're going to have to face these questions.

If Mulcair wants this to go away come out and tell us why you remortgaged your house 11 times in 20 years.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
We saw Vic Toew's divorce documents get splashed all over twitter, with the media referencing "Vicileaks" hundreds of times within article for weeks as a means of making the information very accessible and very public and I hardly saw the same degree of outrage from anyone regarding that.

While I consider both matters to be private, the conditions of an MP's divorce have far less relevance within the political sphere then the financial management of someone who wants to be Prime Minister, yet one was fair game and the other is somehow taboo?

Why?

Both are private matters to some degree, however they have to know that all of this is in the public record and can be searched anytime for those w an agenda.


But the Toews incident , afaik, was a direct result of his monumental screw up a la the "pedophies or your with us" comment re the privacy changes.

Kind of a "what do you think of privacy now Mr Toews?"
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
cosmostein wrote:
We saw Vic Toew's divorce documents get splashed all over twitter, with the media referencing "Vicileaks" hundreds of times within article for weeks as a means of making the information very accessible and very public and I hardly saw the same degree of outrage from anyone regarding that.

While I consider both matters to be private, the conditions of an MP's divorce have far less relevance within the political sphere then the financial management of someone who wants to be Prime Minister, yet one was fair game and the other is somehow taboo?

Why?

Both are private matters to some degree, however they have to know that all of this is in the public record and can be searched anytime for those w an agenda.


But the Toews incident , afaik, was a direct result of his monumental screw up a la the "pedophies or your with us" comment re the privacy changes.

Kind of a "what do you think of privacy now Mr Toews?"


Lets be realistic;
Anyone can find any reason to "justify" dumpster diving into a politicians private life.

There really isn't a middle ground;
If Toews situation was fair game to the opposition and folks in the media, then so is Mulcair's, and so was Layton's.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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="cosmosteinIf Toews situation was fair game to the opposition and folks in the media, then so is Mulcair's, and so was Layton's.

Sorry, I didnt mean to imply t that Mulcairs situation should have been kept private.

My reference w Toews was more a why he got targetted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
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="cosmosteinIf Toews situation was fair game to the opposition and folks in the media, then so is Mulcair's, and so was Layton's.

Sorry, I didnt mean to imply t that Mulcairs situation should have been kept private.

My reference w Toews was more a why he got targetted.


Understandable;
I understand the reasoning as to the attempt by the Liberal staffer to justify his actions, while I can certainly appreciate the "Gotcha" moment he was attempting to create, my comment in general is more to the effect of;

Why is Glen McGregor getting his ass chewed out, whereas folks seems to be rushing to justify that Vikileaks had some sort of high cause behind it?

Couldn't it be argued that Glen McGregor's article pointed out an ethics breech if it was not disclosed or some other means of hogwash justification?

Both are dumpster diving, the only difference is the party affiliation of the target.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paying for mortgage is hard especially if you have lots of debts. Thomas Daigle of Massachusetts recently became a news item when he elected to settle debt with pennies. Namely, he saved his coppers over the years and made his last mortgage payment with a wheelbarrow of coins. Some companies will let people do likewise, but one should be cautious about trying it. If you need to pay a bill, you can use a payday loan.
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